Western powers and the holocaust

[D1J1]

Originally Posted by lcm1

The Jews in the 30s

The Jews in the 30s were persecuted to a certain extent,little or much the World over,even if it was only by sarcastic and insulting comments.Much of which was possibly triggered by jealousy,for many of them were fairly well educated with a natural instinct for business and trading which helped them survive in a World ravaged by a massive depression.I am not saying that this led to the attempted extermination of their race but it was a ready made fuel for the fire. lcm1

Most definitely true. And the prejudice was carried with people as well. My immigrant grandparents had a strong dislike of Jewish people.

Regards,
Dennis

[lcm1]

Originally Posted by D1J1

Most definitely true. And the prejudice was carried with people as well. My immigrant grandparents had a strong dislike of Jewish people.

Regards,
Dennis

Yes I agree, even with my parents generation,and I am sure that they had nothing to directly concern them,so it must have been handed down for they were ordinary loving people. lcm1

[lcm1]

Originally Posted by D1J1

Most definitely true. And the prejudice was carried with people as well. My immigrant grandparents had a strong dislike of Jewish people.

Regards,
Dennis

Have just watched a film on SBS called Sarah's Key.It was about 1942 in Paris and the roundup of hundreds of French Jews, not by the Germans but by the French Police under the instructions of the French Government.It was called the Vel'd'Hiv roundup. The story may have been fiction but the basis of the story was most positively Facts. People shouting insults at them as they were herded into trucks,men women and children,most depressing and shows how easy it could happen in other places besides Germany. lcm1

[clackers]

Originally Posted by lcm1

Have just watched a film on SBS called Sarah's Key.It was about 1942 in Paris and the roundup of hundreds of French Jews, not by the Germans but by the French Police under the instructions of the French Government.It was called the Vel'd'Hiv roundup. The story may have been fiction but the basis of the story was most positively Facts. People shouting insults at them as they were herded into trucks,men women and children,most depressing and shows how easy it could happen in other places besides Germany. lcm1

Yes, Lcm1, there were some disgraceful figures in the Vichy Govt who actually shared some of the Nazi philosophies, were proactive in organizing militia to hunt down Commie partisans, etc.

[lcm1]

Originally Posted by clackers

Yes, Lcm1, there were some disgraceful figures in the Vichy Govt who actually shared some of the Nazi philosophies, were proactive in organizing militia to hunt down Commie partisans, etc.

Hi clack,yes I know and I have been called anti French for making such comments. lcm1

[Desiree Clary]

Originally Posted by lcm1

Hi clack,yes I know and I have been called anti French for making such comments. lcm1

I have read that the French are in denial about many Frenchmen's role in WWII. Not all of them were active in the Maquis, by any means.

[lcm1]

Originally Posted by Desiree Clary

I have read that the French are in denial about many Frenchmen's role in WWII. Not all of them were active in the Maquis, by any means.

I remarked recently to someone about a film I saw recently on SBS that was based on facts which were of a round up of Jews in Paris in 1942 ordered by the French Government and carried out by the police. Men,women and children herded into trucks then housed in a stadium in appalling conditions before being put into labour camps. I told it not to denigrate the French in general but to show that such things could happen where you may least expect it. lcm1

[clackers]

Originally Posted by Desiree Clary

I have read that the French are in denial about many Frenchmen's role in WWII. Not all of them were active in the Maquis, by any means.

Yep, you've seen the pictures of rough justice being served by villagers on suspected collaborators.

If you had an established career in a country under occupation, it might pay to cozy up to the new masters to ensure continuity of business.

A lot of this stuff has been unverified, but it does look like Coco Chanel (who is otherwise to be admired for making aspects of haute couture available to the middle class) probably went 'above and beyond' ...

http://www.messynessychic.com/2012/0...nitely-a-nazi/

[Desiree Clary]

Originally Posted by clackers

Yep, you've seen the pictures of rough justice being served by villagers on suspected collaborators.

If you had an established career in a country under occupation, it might pay to cozy up to the new masters to ensure continuity of business.

A lot of this stuff has been unverified, but it does look like Coco Chanel (who is otherwise to be admired for making aspects of haute couture available to the middle class) probably went 'above and beyond' ...

http://www.messynessychic.com/2012/0...nitely-a-nazi/

Wow, that was a shocker!