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Another "just thought I'd drop this here" ...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Venezuela.html

just saw this today
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Our first proof of how our ancestors lived in the Stone Age comes from a Socialist government! Amazing!
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Pretty much sums it all up ... LOL
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Banned video of Venezuela's demise

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Daily Mail - Starving mob beat cattle to death with rocks in desperate search for food and four people are killed during looting in Venezuela as country's economic collapse continues ... lot's-o'-photos of the desperation

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Venezuela.html
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Now the money's run out too.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...cid=spartandhp

With inflation totally out of control, banks are limiting the amount of cash they give out on a transaction. The reporter in this story took about 4 hours to get 10,000 bolivars worth about 6 cents, the maximum the bank was allowing.

As for food, that too is going, going, gone. The CLAP box (a sort of welfare food handout) has gotten fewer in availability and contains less and less.

http://www.latinamericanpost.com/ind...the-clap-boxes

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The boxes contain four cans of tuna, two 900-milliliter (31-ounce) bottles of vegetable oil, one kilo (2.2 pounds) of rice, one kilo of sugar, one kilo of corn flour, two kilos of powdered milk, two kilos of spaghetti, a half-kilo of short pasta, two bags of black beans, two bags of lentils, a small bottle of ketchup and a bag of mayonnaise.
http://www.aldianews.com/articles/po...d-system/51366



But, you do get a little bottle of deodorant in yours curtesy of Maduro, who owns (and profits) from the distribution of the CLAP boxes...

https://panampost.com/sabrina-martin...-chavezs-eyes/

That helps since most municipal water systems don't work now either...
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Is this ration per person or per house?

Sounds like what my wife told me went on in Vietnam for years after 04-30-1975.

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Is this ration per person or per house?
Looks like what they would expect a family to get by on for a week, maybe two weeks.

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Sounds like what my wife told me went on in Vietnam for years after 04-30-1975.
Communists sure know how to create shortages where none existed before, don't they?
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Sounds like what my wife told me went on in Vietnam for years after 04-30-1975.

Sad.
It isn't a ration per se from what I can tell. The boxes (which now contain less than half of what they used to contain) are sold at a subsidized price (currently about 25,000 Bolivars officially) by local government committees to individuals. They aren't free. They are frequently used as a weapon by the government who will only sell them to loyalists and communities that are considered loyal.
The local committees also tend to sell them to insiders and cronies, and often at higher prices skimming the additional take in cash and pocketing it.

So, how many you can get depends on:

1. Your loyalty to the Maduro government.
2. Your connections to the local CLAP committee
3. Your supply of cash in bolivars
4. The CLAP committee's available supply (which is getting sketchier too).

Everything I've read indicates this whole program is one massive train wreck of corruption and incompetence.
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It isn't a ration per se from what I can tell. The boxes (which now contain less than half of what they used to contain) are sold at a subsidized price (currently about 25,000 Bolivars officially) by local government committees to individuals. They aren't free. They are frequently used as a weapon by the government who will only sell them to loyalists and communities that are considered loyal.
The local committees also tend to sell them to insiders and cronies, and often at higher prices skimming the additional take in cash and pocketing it.

So, how many you can get depends on:

1. Your loyalty to the Maduro government.
2. Your connections to the local CLAP committee
3. Your supply of cash in bolivars
4. The CLAP committee's available supply (which is getting sketchier too).

Everything I've read indicates this whole program is one massive train wreck of corruption and incompetence.
Almost identical to what my wife said the hard-liner communists did in Vietnam with the Russian-type system of food distribution. It persisted until we basically won the Cold War.

Example; One month you would get your "ration" (via stamps/ration card) and a very small amount of cash if you worked. Sometime in the month everyone in the family would get a ration of 6 bicycle tires (but you cannot eat those) so they would sell or trade the tires for more food or clothes since the individual monthly ration was never enough. The shortages were blamed on the USA and other world capitalists.

Whole damn thing is absolute lunacy.

I can easily see Maduro becoming another Pol Pot / Castro / Ho Chi Minh.
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What's really funny, at least in English, is that this program gives you the CLAP and there is no available cure for it...

It's sort of a STD... Socialist Transmitted Delusion...
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