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India warns China over road construction near border amid stand-off

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India warned China on Friday that construction of a road near their common border would have serious security implications, as China's Foreign Ministry denied its troops had violated the territory of India's ally, Bhutan.

The stand-off on a plateau next to the mountainous Indian state of Sikkim, which borders China, has ratcheted up tension between the two neighboring giants, who share a 3,500 km (2175 miles) frontier, parts of which are disputed.

According to the Chinese interpretation of events, Indian guards crossed into China's Donglang region early in June and obstructed work on a road on a plateau.

Troops from the two sides then confronted each other close to a strategic valley controlled by China that separates India from Bhutan and gives China access to the so-called Chicken's Neck, a thin strip of land that connects India to its remote northeastern regions.
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Always been an area of contention - back in 1967 when Sikkim was still independent India and China fought a mini war up there. In the late 19th century a member of my father's side of the family died in Sikkim - apparently working for the Indian Political Service - possibly part of "the Great Game" and the Imperial Chinese Secret Service got him.
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India has still neglected to build roads up to the border with China. India's problem is its territory is on the wrong side of the rain shadow. Remember how much trouble the US had in building the Ledo Road during WW II to reestablish a link to the Burma Road? The Indian side of the Border gets a huge amount of rainfall and the Chinese side to fairly dry. Before 1967 the Chinese built gravel roads to establish a supply system in Tibet.

The Indians swore they would build roads after the Chinese embarrassed them in 1967. Indian politicians have refused to fund the roads since then. It looks like the politicians have given defacto control to the Chinese.

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My subsidiary subject when I took my first degree was Political Geography and the India Chinese border was used as a case study on the importance of the right kind of maps. Initially the border was only defined in words with phrases like ' and then runs North East from the cairn at the top of the pass to the ruined tea house'. Then Britain and China agreed to use a map. The Chinese supplied the map at the conference to draw the border line- it was a very small scale map so that the border line itself is very wide and no one can agree exactly where on the ground India finishes and China begins and there have been disputes ever since.
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The Chinese also drew their boundary line inside territory the British had staked out before India got its independence.

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The Indians swore they would build roads after the Chinese embarrassed them in 1967. Indian politicians have refused to fund the roads since then. It looks like the politicians have given defacto control to the Chinese.

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Hmmm... I had thought that Indian didn't develop Assam's infrastructure in order to prevent it from becoming an avenue of attack for China's Army.
Yeah, I know it was declared a "preserve", but honestly...

It is as if India is using Mother Nature as their version of the Maginot Line.
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It is as if India is using Mother Nature as their version of the Maginot Line.
You can't beat the price! There are several other areas of contention along the old India/Tibet border as well. The same rainfall will prevent the Chinese from building roads into the disputed area. They would have to rebuild them every year after the Monsoon washes them away.

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So it's a fact that Indian forces did enter Chinese (held) territory to block the road construction? I had read another article and India said it was only helping Bhutan and denier entering chinese territory.
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Apparently Bhutan is asking India to ease up a bit.


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Former CPM general secretary Prakash Karat said it is important for the government to keep in mind that the main party in the Doka La plateau dispute is Bhutan and added "it is better" that India takes the lead in negotiating with China on the issue and supports Thimphu.

Regarding the standoff over Doka La, he said Bhutan has been negotiating with China directly on its border issues since 1984. Hence, he said, it is better that India lets Bhutan take the lead in negotiating with China on the Doka La Plateau and other disputed territories. "It is also important to keep in mind that Bhutan is the main party in the dispute. Bhutan is not a 'protectorate' of India," Karat said.

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As a matter of policy, India does not recognize that Chinese troops are in a disputed area. They claim the area is delineated by the old British boundary lines. In effect, the Chinese have crossed the old border and should be sent back to the other side. What I find interesting is Chinese Troops are in the areas of Bhutan that China has been negotiating with since 1984. It takes 30 years to make an agreement? Have the Chinese retreated from any of the lands they took?

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Fake news might bring China and India to war over the Sikkim standoff. I hope both are able to remain calm throughout and don't play the fool in this latest dispute. Dunya News, a 24-hours Urdu language news service in Pakistan, claimed the death of 158 Indian soldiers in attacks by Chinese rocket attack across the border. This is fake news and immediately rejected by the Chinese. India’s external affairs ministry also denied the news report by Dunya News.
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I feel sorry for Bhutan, they are smack between these 2 countries.
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India and Bhutan are in a unique relationship. India trains and equips the Bhutanese military. Bhutanese economy is largely dependant on Indian military and economic aid. Bhutanese citizens enjoy privileges accorded only to Indian Citizens and tibetean refugees. The countries are in a treaty obligationwith each other to not allow conduction of any activity harmful to the security interests of each other on their respective soil. The current standoff is a coperative effort between Bhutan and India
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While the outcome of this standoff is of paramount security concern to india, all activities conducted by the Indan military on Bhutanese soil are conducted with full Co operation and consent of Bhutan without any infringement on its sovereignty on India's part

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