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Film, DVD, and TV Discuss the latest movies at the theatre and on DVD, as well as what is on TV. ACG film reviews will also be found here.

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Loved it. Variety and texture.
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The graphic novel that inspired a generation?
Doesn't take much to inspire the present generation apparently..
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The graphic novel's first installment was published in 1967.
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Well, I went and saw it.

I think Besson did a great job of subtly making great satire of many recent sci-fi movies in this one. The alien race at the center of the movie were right out of Avatar but not the pathetic whiners of that movie.
In one scene in what's the equivalent of a "red light district" you catch Valerian being propositioned by Jessica Rabbit... (my son said the same thing so I didn't just imagine that).
The bad guy was out of Star Wars.
The "prime minister" was an obvious send up of the President in the Fifth Element.
Valerian's ship looks like a finny version of the Millennium Falcon.

It was just full of really subtle jokes if you looked for them.
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I had to chose between this movie and Dunkirk and Dunkirk won. The start times for Valerian were over two and a half hours away.

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I had to chose between this movie and Dunkirk and Dunkirk won. The start times for Valerian were over two and a half hours away.

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I went to Dunkirk in the morning and joined the wife for the evening showing of "Valerian". We'll make similar accommodations for "Murder on the Orient Express." I already know who dunnit.
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In one scene in what's the equivalent of a "red light district" you catch Valerian being propositioned by Jessica Rabbit...
I saw that, and thought it one of the more subtle, well played moments in the movie. As for the rest...

The jab at "Avatar" was direct, particularly given the opening scene. As I have said elsewhere "Avatar" was an anti-corporate, anti-capitalist screed woven into the appropriated story of Pocahontas. Only here the High-Elf one-with-the-universe nature-loving doe-eyed wonders had critters which could reproduce whatever valuable mineral, jewel, or unobtainable macguffin their little hearts desired, thus rendering them potentially the richest doe-eyed wonders in the Universe. And they knew it, which was the true stab at "Avatar."

Also true the villain was your standard copy and paste bad-guy taken from any number of Sci-Fi films released since "Forbidden Planet." In addition many of the alien species were taken right out of "The Fifth Element."

Beginning the character narrative with a marriage proposal was a poorly executed attempt at character development. For those who had never read the Graphic Novels, of which I was one, at the start of the narrative the viewer had nothing invested in the lead characters, and thus no emotion to invest in the lead's ham-handed attempt to woe someone who looked ten years younger than he did. My thought at that moment was "who gives a crap," and by the end of the film that sentiment hadn't changed.

I suppose the most disappointing aspect of the film was the predictability of the plot. I mean the entire progression was formulaic, and by the time of the James Bond adrift at sea with the subdued maiden scene I was just glad it was over.

Yes, "Valerian" looked good, but so did "The Fifth Element." But the simple truth is "The Fifth Element" was a much better movie. In addition it benefited from the grace of featuring a heroine who looked like a woman instead of a kid.

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She also got more screen time kicking @$$...

I'll add that Valerian is likely to make a fortune off the residuals and replays on television, etc., just as Lucy and The Fifth Element did.
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