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| South Asia and World Terrorism Discuss the War in Afghanistan, civil war in Pakistan, and events around the Indian sub-continent. |
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08 Jan 13, 13:11
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Originally Posted by macgregr
God how I love drones! People coming out against drones do so because they would rather fight a war than win one. If not for Obama offering military leadership to republicans as some kind of olive branch, we'd have our troops out of there and be doing much better. Instead Petraeus had partisan republican operatives in his HQ devising a strategy to hurt Obama's image(and hundreds of our soldiers). Oh well, if 'Watergate does not bother' you, that shouldn't.
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Obama hurt Obams strategy not republicans. |
08 Jan 13, 21:27
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Originally Posted by craven
Obama hurt Obams strategy not republicans.
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Ultimately, yes. |
10 Jan 13, 01:12
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Today.
Pakistan intelligence officials: US missile strike kills 5 suspected militants in northwest - @AP
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10 Jan 13, 02:04
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Real Name: Don
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Look like the Dutch flyboys are giving the Taliban hell with their Apache Helicopter gunships.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5b4_1357758771
Good shooting boys.
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10 Jan 13, 13:48
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Those Dutch guys are pretty good. They been in Afghanistan a long time shooting stuff up.
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10 Jan 13, 15:02
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Buell
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Originally Posted by PhilipLaos
Today.
Pakistan intelligence officials: US missile strike kills 5 suspected militants in northwest - @AP |
There seems to be no mention of the civilians killed in these attacks. Unless they are trying to claim all the killed are 'militants', which is highly unlikely obviously. Hopefully we have improved our aim:
http://antiwar.com/blog/2013/01/09/j...an-casualties/
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17 Feb 13, 20:45
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I'm glad to see the strikes are continueing-I had thought they had stopped.
I love the drones-no risk, no fuss, very high accuracy.
Hit hard, hit 'em often.
The idea of terrorist C3 getting snuffed out without warning while they go about their business is a lovely mix of irony and justice.
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18 Feb 13, 10:22
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Location: On your Six!!
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Originally Posted by Arnold J Rimmer
I'm glad to see the strikes are continueing-I had thought they had stopped.
I love the drones-no risk, no fuss, very high accuracy.
Hit hard, hit 'em often.
The idea of terrorist C3 getting snuffed out without warning while they go about their business is a lovely mix of irony and justice.
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There is also a lot colateral damge from these which causes a load of "blowback" down the line. I think they're a tool but shouldnt be some panacea that some might believe... |
18 Feb 13, 12:01
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Red Dwarf
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Originally Posted by copenhagen
There is also a lot colateral damge from these which causes a load of "blowback" down the line. I think they're a tool but shouldnt be some panacea that some might believe...
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There's a risk of colateral damage from any military action. That's the price of doing business, as they say.
With the drones, though, we avoid any friendly losses.
Plus drones seem to be politically more acceptable than manned combat aircraft when penetrateing nuetral air space. Cheaper, too.
If you set you goal as killing terrorists wherever they can be found (which I heartily support), than doing it with drones is the best method.
Here's the simple poltical reality: if Obama orders the drone strikes halted, or even significantly reduced, then the next terrorist strike against US assets would immediately be blamed on his policy shift, and the Democrats would suffer. There a good reason why Democrats tend to be quicker to order strikes: they are always laboring to avoid the 'soft on terror' label. The 'wimp factor'.
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