HistoryNet.com RSS
ArmchairGeneral.com RSS

HistoryNet.com Articles
America's Civil War
American History
Aviation History
Civil War Times
MHQ
Military History
Vietnam
Wild West
World War II

ACG Online
ACG Magazine
Stuff We Like
War College
History News
Tactics 101
Carlo D'Este
Books

ACG Gaming
Boardgames
PC Game Reviews

ACG Network
Contact Us
Our Newsletter
Meet Our Staff
Advertise With Us

Sites We Support
HistoryNet.com
StreamHistory.com
Once A Marine
The Art of Battle
Game Squad
Mil. History Podcast
Russian Army - WW2
Achtung Panzer!
Mil History Online

Go Back   Armchair General and HistoryNet >> The Best Forums in History > Current Events > Africa

Notices and Announcements

Africa Issues of modern Africa.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 03 Feb 09, 03:47
Half Pint John's Avatar
Half Pint John Half Pint John is offline
General of the Forums
United_States
Distinguished Service Award ACG Ten Year Service Award ACG 5 Year Service Ribbon March Offensive 
Summer Campaign 100 Greatest Generals, 2008 Most Decisive Battle Campaign, 2008 Greatest Westerns Campaign 
Greatest Spy Movies Campaign Greatest Blunders Campaign Best Pin-Up Of World War II Most Significant/Influential Tank Campaign 
Most Significant/Influential Fighter Campaign Most Significant/Influential Multi-Role Aircraft C 
 
Real Name: John (NO LABELS)
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Stuttgart Germany
Posts: 47,322
Half Pint John has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Half Pint John has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Half Pint John has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Half Pint John has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Half Pint John has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Half Pint John has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Half Pint John has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Half Pint John has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Half Pint John has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Half Pint John has achieved enlightenment [1200+]  [+1]
Half Pint John has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Half Pint John has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Half Pint John has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Half Pint John has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Half Pint John has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Half Pint John has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Half Pint John has achieved enlightenment [1200+]
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeltaOne View Post
I agree with your post. The time of standing fast is over. Time for action. I believe it is time Somalia is cleaned up. What is needed is a strongly committed force, heavily armed and well led. It must contain naval, army, marine and air force. It has to hit all at once so the rebels have no idea where it hit them from. Special Forces should/need to be involved.
For far too long, this has been a festering mess that will only worsen as time goes by. LETS DO IT!!! Come on Obama - let's see if you have the cajoles.

How much of US trade goes throught the area? IIRC not that much. Let the EU play at world policemen for a while. Good training for the Asians countries as well. Until the USN gets more aggesive RoE I don't want to have a thing to do with it.
__________________
"Ask not what your country can do for you"

Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.

'half-baked, spurious nationalism'
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 03 Feb 09, 12:55
GCoyote's Avatar
GCoyote GCoyote is offline
ACG Forums - canis administrationem
United_States
Distinguished Service Award ACG Ten Year Service Award ACG 5 Year Service Ribbon Greatest Westerns Campaign 
Greatest Spy Movies Campaign Greatest Blunders Campaign Best Pin-Up Of World War II Most Significant/Influential Tank Campaign 
Most Significant/Influential Multi-Role Aircraft C 
 
Real Name: Gary C
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Laurel, MD, USA
Posts: 19,102
GCoyote has achieved enlightenment [1200+] GCoyote has achieved enlightenment [1200+] GCoyote has achieved enlightenment [1200+] GCoyote has achieved enlightenment [1200+] GCoyote has achieved enlightenment [1200+]
GCoyote has achieved enlightenment [1200+] GCoyote has achieved enlightenment [1200+] GCoyote has achieved enlightenment [1200+] GCoyote has achieved enlightenment [1200+] GCoyote has achieved enlightenment [1200+]
I like the convoy idea. I see two problems to solved before implementation:
  • Shipping companies would lose money waiting for a convoy, so they either have to be organized on the fly or scheduled so that the merchant ships can rendezous on a timely schedule.
  • It won't help commercial fishing boats, they will still have to depend on area patrols and luck.
It could be interesting for the cruise industry though. Can you imagine rolling down the African coast with a dozen other ships and a man-o-war escort in formation?
__________________
Any metaphor will tear if stretched over too much reality.

Questions about our site? See the FAQ.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 05 Feb 09, 13:46
Bwaha's Avatar
Bwaha Bwaha is offline
General of the Forums
United_States
ACG 5 Year Service Ribbon Best Pin-Up Of World War II Most Significant/Influential Tank Campaign Most Significant/Influential Fighter Campaign 
Most Significant/Influential Multi-Role Aircraft C 
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Orbiting the Sun
Posts: 18,375
Bwaha has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Bwaha has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Bwaha has achieved enlightenment [1200+]
Bwaha has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Bwaha has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Bwaha has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Bwaha has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Bwaha has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Bwaha has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Bwaha has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Bwaha has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Bwaha has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Bwaha has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Bwaha has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Bwaha has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Bwaha has achieved enlightenment [1200+] Bwaha has achieved enlightenment [1200+]
Pirates release the merchant ship with tanks and munitions.

Yar, I wonder where it will go...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7871510.stm

These pirates are just having too much fun. RPV's with hellfire missiles is the best solution I think.
__________________
Credo quia absurdum.


Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 05 Feb 09, 17:00
the_redstar_swl's Avatar
the_redstar_swl the_redstar_swl is offline
General
Pirate
ACG Ten Year Service Award ACG 5 Year Service Ribbon 
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Somewhere between L1 and L2
Posts: 4,106
the_redstar_swl has disabled reputation
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bwaha View Post
Yar, I wonder where it will go...
Probably to Kenya, IIRC it's cargo was bought by some guys in Southern Sudan.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 05 Feb 09, 17:21
Centrix Vigilis's Avatar
Centrix Vigilis Centrix Vigilis is offline
Banned
United_States
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Artesia-Roswell-Dulce NM
Posts: 8,153
Centrix Vigilis is a glorious beacon of light [700]
Centrix Vigilis is a glorious beacon of light [700] Centrix Vigilis is a glorious beacon of light [700] Centrix Vigilis is a glorious beacon of light [700] Centrix Vigilis is a glorious beacon of light [700] Centrix Vigilis is a glorious beacon of light [700] Centrix Vigilis is a glorious beacon of light [700] Centrix Vigilis is a glorious beacon of light [700] Centrix Vigilis is a glorious beacon of light [700] Centrix Vigilis is a glorious beacon of light [700] Centrix Vigilis is a glorious beacon of light [700] Centrix Vigilis is a glorious beacon of light [700] Centrix Vigilis is a glorious beacon of light [700] Centrix Vigilis is a glorious beacon of light [700] Centrix Vigilis is a glorious beacon of light [700]
nuc it... gass it... pave it over and start anew......i dont have to like pirates or the somali government in it's current form or for that matter the form it's taken in the last 25 years.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links

  #21  
Old 07 Feb 09, 12:27
Baldric's Avatar
Baldric Baldric is offline
Captain
England
ACG 5 Year Service Ribbon 
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Portsmouth
Posts: 701
Baldric has demonstrated strength of character [100] Baldric has demonstrated strength of character [100] Baldric has demonstrated strength of character [100] Baldric has demonstrated strength of character [100] Baldric has demonstrated strength of character [100] Baldric has demonstrated strength of character [100] Baldric has demonstrated strength of character [100] Baldric has demonstrated strength of character [100] Baldric has demonstrated strength of character [100] Baldric has demonstrated strength of character [100]
Quote:
Originally Posted by GCoyote View Post
I like the convoy idea. I see two problems to solved before implementation:
  • Shipping companies would lose money waiting for a convoy, so they either have to be organized on the fly or scheduled so that the merchant ships can rendezous on a timely schedule.
There would be a trade off in the cost of insurance premiums against the cost of delays. Exactly how much of a trade off would depend on the value of the vessel and the cargo, and how frequent the convoys were.

Quote:
Originally Posted by GCoyote View Post
  • It won't help commercial fishing boats, they will still have to depend on area patrols and luck.
No, it wouldn't help commercial boats in the short term - they would be better to stay away from the area - like any warzone. But it would help them in the long run, once the problem was sorted out.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Please bookmark this thread if you enjoyed it!


Thread Tools
Display Modes



Forum Jump

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 14:22.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.