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Here is a pretty decent link on the subject.

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I'm only seeing this account of 4 'tanks' being hit on Al Jazeera. Other sources are referencing 1 'military vehicle' hit.

Al Jazeera latest:

7:52pm

French warplanes hit four pro-Gaddafi tanks on the outskirts of Benghazi in that strike that we reported earlier, sources have told Al Jazeera. There is no immediate word on casualties.

8:17pm

Ban Ki-moon, the UN secretary-general, has said that he found Libya's response via telephone regarding a UN resolution to be "troubling".

He said that Libyan claims that the conflict had halted and that the lack of confidence in the government was so great that he no longer trusts what Libyan leaders are saying.

8:24pm

Anita McNaught, Al Jazeera's correspondent in Tripoli, reports that several hundred pro-Gaddafi demonstrators who gathered in Muammar Gaddafi's residence at Bab al-Aziziyah said they were doing so in order to protect the palace from "air strikes" from French aircraft.

8:27pm

Russia says that it "regrets this military action", according to Alexander Lukashevich, a foreign ministry spokesman.

8:28pm

Robert Gates, the US defence secretary, says he is now postponing a trip to Russia in order to monitor developments in Libya.

8:43pm

That statement from the Russian foreign ministry:

In Moscow we regret this armed intervention within UN resolution 1973 which was adopted in haste. We are convinced that bloodshed must be quickly stopped and that Libyans must talk to each other if the internal conflict in Libya is to be settled permanently."

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Have a look at the interesting list of participants in that Paris meeting.

Al Jazeera latest:



A statement has been issued by the Paris summit on Libya. While we won't reproduce the quite lengthy document in full, here are some highlights:

- It describes the Libyan government as "carr[ying] out a growing brutal crackdown, using weapons of war against his own people and perpetrating against them grave and massive violations of humanitarian law".

- It describes the current situation as "intolerable".

- "Muammar Gaddafi and those executing his orders must immediately end the acts of violence carried out against civilians, to withdraw from all areas they have entered by force, return to their compounds, and allow full humanitarian access. We reiterate that the Security Council took the view that Libyan regime's forces actions may amount to crimes against humanity and that, to this end, it has referred the matter to the International Criminal Court."

- "We are determined to take all necessary action, includingmilitary, consistent with UNSCR 1973, to ensure compliance with all its requirements."

8:59pm

And here's a complete list of attendees at the Paris summit:

French President Nicolas Sarkozy
UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon
Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Zapatero
German Chancellor Angela Merkel
Canadian Prime Minister Steven Harper
Qatari Prime Minister Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim bin Jabr al-Thani
Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk
Danish Prime Minister Lars Lokke Rasmussen
Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi
Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou
Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg
Belgian Prime Minister Yves Leterme
British Prime Minister David Cameron
Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte
Arab League Secretary General Amr Moussa
European Council President Herman Van Rompuy
European Union foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton
Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari
UAE Foreign Minister Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed al-Nahayan
US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
Jordanian Foreign Minister Nasser Judeh
Moroccan Foreign Minister Taieb Fassi Fihri

9:02pm

Al Jazeera's James Bays in Benghazi is live on Al Jazeera English now, reporting in the dark as we don't wish to use our large lighting equipment to light up his hotel room on a night when air strikes are feared in Benghazi.

9:04pm

The US Navy has three submarines stationed in the Mediterranean Sea that are preparing for operations against Libya, a US defense official has told Reuters.

The Associated Press earlier reported that while the US did not intend to use fighter jets in the initial stages of the conflict in Libya, they would use sea-based assets to launch Tomahawk cruise missiles at Libyan air defences.


Barack Obama, the US president, is due to make a statement on developments in Libya to reporters in Brasilia, the Brazilian capital, within the hour, the White House says.

9:13pm

The Pentagon is also due to begin a briefing in a few minutes, with Vice Admiral William E Gortney providing an operational update concerning Libya.

Al Jazeera's live blog is at: http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/afri...ch-19?sort=asc
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And here's a complete list of attendees at the Paris summit:

French President Nicolas Sarkozy
UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon
Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Zapatero
German Chancellor Angela Merkel
Canadian Prime Minister Steven Harper
Qatari Prime Minister Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim bin Jabr al-Thani
Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk
Danish Prime Minister Lars Lokke Rasmussen
Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi
Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou
Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg
Belgian Prime Minister Yves Leterme
British Prime Minister David Cameron
Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte
Arab League Secretary General Amr Moussa
European Council President Herman Van Rompuy
European Union foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton
Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari
UAE Foreign Minister Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed al-Nahayan
US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
Jordanian Foreign Minister Nasser Judeh
Moroccan Foreign Minister Taieb Fassi Fihri
I wonder what it would be like for the local cook if all of them are down with food poisoning tomorrow...
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CNN just reported that the US has launched its first Tomahawk missiles against Libyan surface to air targets.

Interesting map here.



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CNN just reported that the US has launched its first Tomahawk missiles against Libyan surface to air targets.

Interesting map here.



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Philip -- are you unable to see this map on my post #266 ??

It's the identical map so I'm just curious if mine didn't post to everyone else -- I can see it but that may mean nothing - it could be that my computer is playing tricks on me -- it's very fond of doing that.

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Al Jazeera latest:

9:31pm

AFP reports that loud blasts have been heard east of the Tripoli, according to witnesses. It is not immediately clear what caused the blasts.

9:33pm

Hugo Chavez, the Venezuelan president, says foreign military intervention in Libya is driven by a desire to control the country's oil wealth.

"They want to seize Libya's oil," he said.

9:37pm

More on those comments from Hugo Chavez, made on state television in Venezuela:

They want to seize Libya's oil and they care nothing about the lives of the Libyan people. These are the men of war ... what irresponsibility. Behind this is the hand of the United States and its European allies, instead of taking the path that we have modestly proposed."

9:43pm

Alain Juppe, the French foreign minister, says that military operations in Libya will continue over the next few days until Gaddafi's government complies with UN Resolution 1973.

9:46pm

A US warship has launched cruise missiles against Libya, CNN reports.

9:48pm

Libyan state television reports that civilian targets in Tripoli have been hit by "crusaders' warplanes".

Meanwhile, David Cameron, the British prime minister, confirms that British forces are in action over Libya.
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Currently,

France: Using piloted aircraft to attack armoured vehicles around Benghazi in the east.

The U.S.: Attacking air defense positions around Tripoli and Misurata in the west with Tomahawk missiles.

Al Jazeera latest:

9:53pm

Al Jazeera's correspondent Kimberly Halkett was present at a Pentagon briefing on operations in Libya. She reports that the US is targetting Integrated Missile Defence Systems along the Libyan coast.

Those strikes are the first wave, where the US is in the lead of coalition efforts which involve France, Italy, the United Kingdom and Canada.

The US will be in control for an unspecified period of time, but then will transfer control to coalition forces. Currently operations of the Joint Task Force are being run from the USS Mt Whitney. There are about 25 ships and submarines present in Mediterranean that will be taking part in operations.

9:59pm

Reuters reports that no major coalition strikes have been initially planned around the opposition stronghold of Benghazi.

Operations in the first phase are currently aimed at degrading the Libyan government's air defences.

10:10pm

Barack Obama, the US president, has just made short comments on the initiation of military operations. He says that the US is "proud that we are acting as part of a coalition", and that the coalition was "answering the calls of a threatened people".
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Sorry James but this isn't WWII - The Euro's are using FLIR and radar. The Tomahawks are guided by GPS. It's safe to turn the lights on as long as you are not near any large radar or missile systems. If you are then the lights won't matter much.

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Your graphic is there. This tends to happen when we have several long threads going at once in the middle of a crisis.
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The Security Council "has acted responsibly to protect and save the lives of defenceless civilians who are faced with brutal acts of violence carried out by the Libyan authorities," the South African foreign ministry says.
Who's defenseless?


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Does this include areas under gov't. control?


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Mustafa Abdul Jalil, the head of the Libyan Interim Council, tells Al Jazeera that residential areas in Benghazi are under attack by artillery and tanks. He also said that the plane shot down belongs to the rebels.
So I guess the rebels aren't respecting the no-fly-zone either?
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Your graphic is there. This tends to happen when we have several long threads going at once in the middle of a crisis.

Thanks -- thoughtI might have messed it up in posting.
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Just watched the Pentagon briefing by Vice Admiral William E Gortney, Director of the Joint Staff in the US. So professional!

110-112 Tomahawk Cruise missiles (old and new models) fired from several US ships and one British submarine.

US attacks started one hour after the French attacks near Benghazi.

Did he say something about the new models being able to hover and do some identification, before beating down on their targets?

Around 20 Libyan air defense targets hit near Tripoli and Misrata. After they access the effectiveness of the strikes and see if aircraft can operate safely in Libyan skies they'll send in Global Hawks. (Why worry so much about safety of unmanned vehicles? Maybe they don't have that many)

The U.S. will hand over command of the operations to a Coalition commander in a few days.


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Makes sense. Either the Garibaldi or the de Gaulle should have a more than large enough command and control suite to manage the air operations.
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Philip -- are you unable to see this map on my post #266 ??

It's the identical map so I'm just curious if mine didn't post to everyone else -- I can see it but that may mean nothing - it could be that my computer is playing tricks on me -- it's very fond of doing that.

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I think it's because you posted your image as an "attachment".
As an attachment, only members logged in are able to view it.

If you post pic from the "insert image" function, it shows up for all to view.
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