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Last of the Lynx

The British Army is decommissioning the Lynx helicopter after 40 years service. Four are doing a round the country flypast tour. They've picked a lousy day for it with very gusty conditions, rain and low cloud. According to the itinerary they should be passing over my area about now but I doubt I'll see them which is shame.
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They've picked a lousy day for it with very gusty conditions, rain and low cloud.
I suppose just the sort of weather they are used to?
But as they are keeping the Wildcat, it does rather remain in service in a more modern configuration
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I wonder if the British Army ever thought of using the Lynx as A scout helicopter to work alongside the Apache?
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I wonder if the British Army ever thought of using the Lynx as A scout helicopter to work alongside the Apache?
Slightly differing time-frames; Gazelle was scout, Lynx was multi-role including anti-armour and some scouty-ness. When Apache entered service the Lynx became more multi-role but less scout.

So current the AAC is now Apache plus UAV for this kind of operation, with UAV control being transferred to Apche in future planning.
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What is replacing it, is it going to be British made? Better than the UH-60M?
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What is replacing it, is it going to be British made? Better than the UH-60M?
The Westland AW159 Wildcat it's an improved Lynx 34 of them.
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Been reading about the Falklands with HMS Endurance and its Lynx helicopters. Might have to pickup this book someday.

The Royal Navy Lynx: An Operational History
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Oops the HMS Endurance had Wasp helicopters on board during the Falklands conflict. Didn't carry the Lynx until 1987.
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Slightly differing time-frames; Gazelle was scout, Lynx was multi-role including anti-armour and some scouty-ness. When Apache entered service the Lynx became more multi-role but less scout.

So current the AAC is now Apache plus UAV for this kind of operation, with UAV control being transferred to Apche in future planning.
Interesting. So the UAV operator will sit in the Apache rather than be ground based? What it is the rationale behind that?
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Interesting. So the UAV operator will sit in the Apache rather than be ground based? What it is the rationale behind that?
The UAV is controlled on the ground but now an AH-64E can take control of a UAV and scout where they want it too and fire it's weapons.
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The UAV is controlled on the ground but now an AH-64E can take control of a UAV and scout where they want it too and fire it's weapons.
Yes, as with many MALE and above, the circuit can be locally ground-controlled but operations sit with someone else.

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It offers another asset for the aircraft, one that extends sensor range but is less valuable and so can be sacrificed if the operating environment appears too hostile for the manned platform. More ambitious plans include a similar set-up for fighters and even the use of de-manned [older fighters] acting as 'loyal wingmen' to a manned aircraft.
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