The Napoleonic Wars - Open Forum Thread

[Baztanz]

I would think this is more than a Pyrrhic victory considering it has been one of a series of defeats for the French in central Europe and a major blow for their Dutch allies.
Yes France has the ability to absorb some losses like this just as Russia has the ability to absorb the same, what will tell in the end is the Political points a few turns from now. Makes for an interesting game methinks.

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by Delenda estRoma

Hmmmm. Looks to be sort of a Pyrrhic victory for the Russians. France can afford to lose the men and points. The Russian army is looking ragged.

Congrats to the Danish! They managed to extinguish the last Russian light fleet! Hurrah! Now for those last 13 SoTL.

I never liked the light ships anyway, and never built new ones in any of the games I’ve played. It was just someone’s house rules that got included.

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by The Purist

Napoleon and Le Grande Armee took another run at the Russians, this time at Ulm. Napoleon again tried to outflank Bagration who anticipated the move and formed his army into a cordon. French numbers helped batter an otherwise better placed Russian army while actual French losses were mitigated by the presence of low morale Dutch and French militia.

French and Dutch lost 18 factors to Russia's 12.

Russia land phase is up!

I'll have it for you tomorrow.

[The Purist]

I have been receiving some questions about strategy and tactics for this monster of ours. To help out I have posted a couple of links to game discussions and strategy in post 11 of the tutorial. A quick search will come up with other sites.

Just remember, we are just coming to the end of 1805 and there is a long road ahead. The beauty of this game is that a bad year or two is not the end of your chances to win.

Cheers!

[Baztanz]

Totally agree Ger, this game must be played with the long term goal in mind, every player should expect reverses in the short term, its how they recover from them and inflict reverses on the other players that tells.
It seems to me it is the player in this game has to be very much like a poker player, you may have been holding good hands initially and you have made some good gains, but lady luck is fleeting so the player who knows when to fold his cards and take a breather is the one who wins out in the end.
Keep playing once lady luck touches the shoulder of another and your pot starts to run thin.

[craven]

Originally Posted by Baztanz

Totally agree Ger, this game must be played with the long term goal in mind, every player should expect reverses in the short term, its how they recover from them and inflict reverses on the other players that tells.
It seems to me it is the player in this game has to be very much like a poker player, you may have been holding good hands initially and you have made some good gains, but lady luck is fleeting so the player who knows when to fold his cards and take a breather is the one who wins out in the end.
Keep playing once lady luck touches the shoulder of another and your pot starts to run thin.

just give up it a French win in less than two more years.

[Baztanz]

naaaaa I doubt it now, if he had taken the peace and rebuilt I would have said maybe a chance, but now he will likely forever be chasing coalitions against him.
He may be leading in two years time, I hope not; but that only makes it 1807-1809 and there is a lot of game left after that. But the winner is the one who can keep up the VP's every month, and every month you fail to find the quata to be a winner in 1815 makes it harder from that month on. Simply because you have to gain enough VPs to fill your current month and any deficit from previous months to become a clear winner; otherwise its just the aggregate of what each has at the end.

Oddly in my view the best ones for a chance to win are one of the minors, and that which one will depend on whether they are on which winning side this stage, they have less points to win per month than France or Britain.
At this stage I like Russia or Turkey's chances with Spain depending which side he ends up on and who he declares war on.

Did a quick calculation on old PPs

Leading so far is (and is already out of date by the current months battles)

Spain Requiring 2.4 per month to reach goal
Prussia and Turkey Requiring 2.8 per month
Russia and Austria Requiring 3.0 per month
Britain requiring 3.3 per month
France requiring 3.6 per month

So obviously Prussia and Turkey have had some easy times with easy beats and Spain doing really well with its Navy against Russia and picking us some easy goals as well.
Britain had that early setback with lost Naval battle and France is having some troubles of late with land battles.
Interesting times ahead for Prussia as it runs up against stronger opponents which leaves Turkey and Spain clear contenders for the easy meats, but they will run out of them soon.

Remember for every month you fail to reach the minimum the following months get harder as the monthly goal goes incremently up.

[The Purist]

We'll get rolling again as soon once Russia figuring out his next move.

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by Delenda estRoma

Hmmmm. Looks to be sort of a Pyrrhic victory for the Russians. France can afford to lose the men and points. The Russian army is looking ragged.

Really did you happen to look at the pre-battle strengths?

France 8,000 Guard, 194,000 Infantry, 2,000 Militia, 32,000 Cavalry

Russia 10,000 Guard, 92,000 Infantry, 20,000 Cavalry

You will notice that the only thing I have superiority in is the Guard and that by only 2,000 troops. While France has more infantry than my whole force (102,000 more than me) as well as Militia and 12,000 more Cav. than me. Given the odds I would say that inflicting 150% of the losses that I suffered was not only good it was phenomenal.

[Baztanz]

Originally Posted by Delenda estRoma
Hmmmm. Looks to be sort of a Pyrrhic victory for the Russians. France can afford to lose the men and points. The Russian army is looking ragged.

Indeed Tsar I had overlooked the numbers myself and on seeing that, I have to say a very impressive performance by Russia. Of course it is not only about numbers that France may or may not be able to rebuild in time, it is also about victory points and France has been on a down hill slide of late.
Also remember he is losing more men than he is rebuilding at the moment, and those lost allied numbers will take even longer to rebuild.

Good God Nappy has been beaten twice in two significant battles, what will this do to the aura of the ogre.

I can assure all readers that the French King Louis XVIII is currently having his travel bags packed (All 576 of them) for his return to France and the throne.

[The Purist]

BRRRRRRRRR!!! - Baby its cold outside.

Dec 1805 - Diplomacy Phase!!

Note that:

Swabia is now Russian Conquered
Corfu is a minor neutral (sorry missed that one last month)
Spanish guerillas have appeared in area 385

Order of play is:

France
Russia
Turkey
Austria
Prussia
Great Britain
Spain

Also note you do not have to wait on your actual notice to send me any changes you want made to your political actions.

Here are a few maps for your planning.

Italy



North Germany



Spain



South Germany - btw, there are 8 French corps at Freiburg, 6 Russian and 4 Austrian at Ulm

[The Purist]

Check your reinforcements

Spain is done

Britain
Prussia
Austria
Turkey
Russia
France.