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09 Sep 09, 11:58
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Obama Warns Students Of Perils Of Facebookl
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WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama warned American teenagers on Tuesday of the dangers of putting too much personal information on Internet social networking sites, saying it could come back to haunt them in later life.The presidential words of advice follow recent studies that suggest U.S. employers are increasingly turning to sites such as Facebook and News Corp's MySpace to conduct background checks on job applicants.
Taking part in a question-and-answer session with a group of 14- and 15-year-old school students, Obama was asked by one pupil for some advice on becoming U.S. president.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32756786...ence-security/
And here is the clear irony and hypocrisy for all to see:
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The Obama White House frequently uses Facebook, Twitter and other social networking sites to bypass the media and communicate directly to Americans.
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09 Sep 09, 12:06
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Originally Posted by Mountain Man
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How is that hypocrisy?  He didn't say do not use social networking...he said to be careful what you put on there. I'm sure the kiddies were able to comprehend the difference...
I have not hired people based on public online information. Freakishly, I also use the internet.
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Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes to be true. Demosthenes.
Against logic there is no armor like ignorance. Laurence J. Peter
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09 Sep 09, 14:42
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Originally Posted by Mountain Man
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Irony - the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irony
Hypocrisy - a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; especially
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Hypocrisy
Obama telling students to be careful about their presentation on Facebook and Myspace because of the picture it presents to employers, and his use of Facebook or Myspace, is in no way Ironic of Hypocritical.
Misapplying the words Irony and Hypocrisy, is in fact ironic.
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09 Sep 09, 14:48
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09 Sep 09, 15:14
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Originally Posted by medevac
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Hey MM...you have "Cheap seats" on your side.
Like a free t-shirt?
   
The best part about being able to debate and refute claims is you don't have to resort to namecalling like Medi!
Too bad Obama didn't give that little nugget to the kiddies.! 
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#occupyarmchairgeneral.
Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes to be true. Demosthenes.
Against logic there is no armor like ignorance. Laurence J. Peter
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09 Sep 09, 15:15
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Originally Posted by Crash
Hey MM...you have "Cheap seats" on your side.
Like a free t-shirt?

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Wow, you sure are threatened by powerful women with an opinion. How does your domestic partner feel? I'm betting he's a bit more tolerant than you are.... 
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09 Sep 09, 15:16
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Originally Posted by CPangracs
Wow, you sure are threatened by powerful women with an opinion. How does your domestic partner feel? I'm betting he's a bit more tolerant than you are.... 
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Hey Curt.... send me your picture. I have a t-shirt waiting for it!!   
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#occupyarmchairgeneral.
Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes to be true. Demosthenes.
Against logic there is no armor like ignorance. Laurence J. Peter
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09 Sep 09, 15:27
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Originally Posted by Crash
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Here you go...

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09 Sep 09, 16:25
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Originally Posted by Lincolnfan
Irony - the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irony
Hypocrisy - a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; especially
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Hypocrisy
Obama telling students to be careful about their presentation on Facebook and Myspace because of the picture it presents to employers, and his use of Facebook or Myspace, is in no way Ironic of Hypocritical.
Misapplying the words Irony and Hypocrisy, is in fact ironic.
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Bite me...an Anglo-Saxon expression signifying disgust with the attitude of an obnoxious and irritating person.
Thanks for your input, Skippy.
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09 Sep 09, 16:27
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Originally Posted by medevac
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I thought they were the same person, and now you tell me they're the "Banned" and "Boned" twins? 
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09 Sep 09, 17:27
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Originally Posted by Mountain Man
I thought they were the same person, and now you tell me they're the "Banned" and "Boned" twins? 
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Confused?
Possible causes:
1) Old age
2) Grumpy
3) Republican
4) Constipated brain.
If you are not careful...the next thing you know you might be parading around town with a sign with a picture of a black man and a swastika!  
At least the thread is picking up after the depths of lunacy reached in the original post. 
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#occupyarmchairgeneral.
Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes to be true. Demosthenes.
Against logic there is no armor like ignorance. Laurence J. Peter
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09 Sep 09, 17:48
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Originally Posted by Mountain Man
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Isn't this just a little bit desperate? It's been well documented in the UK that young teenagers, especially girls, have placed too much personal information on their Facebook pages allowing paedophiles a means to contact them. Also, employers have used Facebook as an extra "resource" to research their prospective employees . . . resulting in some not being employed due to abusive or unsuitable material on Facebook. Similar warnings have been issued by the police and young people's organisations . . . seems common sense to me.
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09 Sep 09, 17:51
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"Desperate" how? Or do you not see the irony of a president who uses the internet constantly warning children not to use it?
And how lame and despicable is it to take childrens' ramblings on the internet and use them to determine true character and job ability?
What do you think the childhood history of those making those decisions would be like if they were investigated?
We talking about a form of thought police.
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09 Sep 09, 18:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mountain Man
"Desperate" how? Or do you not see the irony of a president who uses the internet constantly warning children not to use it?
And how lame and despicable is it to take childrens' ramblings on the internet and use them to determine true character and job ability?
What do you think the childhood history of those making those decisions would be like if they were investigated?
We talking about a form of thought police.
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Sorry, can't see anywhere in this particular link that the President told children NOT to use the internet . . . he just warned against the type of information they place on it for all the world and his dog to see (and use for bad things). Again, I reiterate this is sound advice given out by many young people's organisations in order for children to protect themselves.
I know young people love the internet and do all sorts of daft things on it, but it pays to be careful. As for checking potential employees on Facebook, that says everything about the organisations doing the checking and nothing about the President. The problem with posting so much personal information on the internet is that others can use that powerful information for their own ends . . . unethically, illegally, financially or even dangerously.
We're warned to shred all personal documents before placing them in the trash in order to avoid identity theft, yet we post the same information on the internet for everyone to see. On a personal level, I try to give out as little personal information as possible anywhere for these very reasons.
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09 Sep 09, 18:51
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MM im feeling that you and many of the other strong right-winged Republicans are just stomping at absolutely Obama is saying even if its something that isnt a issue or common sense.
Obama warns children that placing your life story on the internet is a bad thing... True we learn this multiple times in school and from police hearing it from a president isnt anything special, but if it may slow down the odd teen it may save thier life
I Do NOT support Obama but slamming every miniscule thing he does isn't IMO the best thing to do.
If we do bash him how are we different from the Dems attacking Bush non-stop.
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