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I'll always take a legislative deadlock over almost any law they can think up.
Yes ma'am... It sure is!
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Stifling or even crippling regulation on employers, insurers, patients and health care providers will simply create an outcry for a "knight" in shining government armor to propose some method of alleviating the cost and service mess that the "reform" bill sans public option created.
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I'll always take a legislative deadlock over almost any law they can think up.
Me too, which is why I prefer the Congress to be the opposite Party to the Prez. Otherwise one gets too much "tyranny of the majority" thrown at you.

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So...

Are you all telling me that a Coalition of "willing partners" have just dealt a major, decisive blow to Obama's momentum? So it was Obama's Waterloo moment after all.

Nevertheless, at this point, all experts and analysts agree that Obama spent a lot of precious political capital over something he probably knew wouldn't pass at all. It's ironic that we have stimulus package to thank for. Had Obama pushed hard for the health care reform instead of stimulus package right after his sworn-in ceremony, I think it would have been passed regardless of Republican opposition.

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I think you're right.

Meanwhile, he's catching more and more flak over his bailout plan as time goes by and details are revealed.
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You should check out the headlines on the Drudge Report.
Own It! http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/26250.html
Little change for GOP cooperation; http://www.mercurynews.com/politics/ci_13154046
Double Flip on Public Option; http://www.nypost.com/seven/08192009...ion_185275.htm
Demanding records from health insurers; http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/26251.html
Approval rating;http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Ga...-Approval.aspx
Blogger being trained to incite others; http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1
Obama to rally the grassroots; http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1
See Barney scream; http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/...eats_up_081809
Over 45,000 call in sick every day; http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...-each-day.html
Thousands of surgeries may be cut next year; http://www.vancouversun.com/story_pr...878506&sponsor
AARP debate gets rowdy;http://www.wftv.com/news/20449704/detail.html
It is falling apart big time.

But, why should it! Democrats don't need Republicans to pass any of this. They have the clear cut majority to pass anything that they want.

So, what is the problem? So called Blue Dog Democrats. Those that are thinking more about being re-elected then the planned destruction of the American economy for political gain.
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It is falling apart big time.
Hooray! Thanks for the news!


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But, why should it! Democrats don't need Republicans to pass any of this. They have the clear cut majority to pass anything that they want.

So, what is the problem? So called Blue Dog Democrats. Those that are thinking more about being re-elected then the planned destruction of the American economy for political gain.

I THINK that's how the system is supposed to work, right? Put the fear of electoral defeat in the villainous congressmen and maybe they won't do us quite as much harm.
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You should check out the headlines on the Drudge Report.
Own It! http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/26250.html
Little change for GOP cooperation; http://www.mercurynews.com/politics/ci_13154046
Double Flip on Public Option; http://www.nypost.com/seven/08192009...ion_185275.htm
Demanding records from health insurers; http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/26251.html
Approval rating;http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Ga...-Approval.aspx
Blogger being trained to incite others; http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1
Obama to rally the grassroots; http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1
See Barney scream; http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/...eats_up_081809
Over 45,000 call in sick every day; http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...-each-day.html
Thousands of surgeries may be cut next year; http://www.vancouversun.com/story_pr...878506&sponsor
AARP debate gets rowdy;http://www.wftv.com/news/20449704/detail.html
It is falling apart big time.

But, why should it! Democrats don't need Republicans to pass any of this. They have the clear cut majority to pass anything that they want.

So, what is the problem? So called Blue Dog Democrats. Those that are thinking more about being re-elected then the planned destruction of the American economy for political gain.
I think you mean those who remembered that they still represent the people, as opposed to the Obama-crats who support The Great Chicago Liar.

Funny how the people get left out of this debate all the time, isn't it?
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