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It gets worse. After calling for a no-fly zone, the head of the Arab League (and possible next Egyptian president) is now strongly condemning the Coalition's actions in knocking out Gadhaffi's air defenses, saying this is not what he expected and accusing the Coalition of attacking civilians.

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The way things had developed the only realistic chance of avoiding a stalemate is literally knocking out everything that Gadafi's power is based on.

It's hard to assign blame except that IMHO it would have been much better to do what we do today right in the night of the UN vote. At that time we would at least have avoided a city fight in Benghazi. Now we get the bashing from parts of the world community *and* have city fighting *and* can't hit forces that already entered the cities.
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It gets worse. After calling for a no-fly zone, the head of the Arab League (and possible next Egyptian president) is now strongly condemning the Coalition's actions in knocking out Gadhaffi's air defenses, saying this is not what he expected and accusing the Coalition of attacking civilians.

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Sounds like the Arabs do not have the backbone for this sort of stuff. They can't even stand behind and support their own decisions.

They are preparing their "blame the West" statements. I'm sure it will be all over the news Monday morning that the West are the bad guys aka aggressors.
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4:30pm

Amr Moussa, the head of the Arab League says that Arabs did not want military strikes by Western powers that hit civilians when the League called for a no-fly zone over Libya, saying:

What is happening in Libya differs from the aim of imposing a no-fly zone, and what we want is the protection of civilians and not the bombardment of more civilians.


4:39pm

A group of eight Italian aircraft are today ready to join operations against Libya says defence minister Ignazio La Russa.

We want to participate as equals in the operation.

He also said Italy was "ready to take action" over an Italian tugboat, whose 11 crewmembers have been detained in Libya.

4:50pm

Aircraft from Qatar are moving into position in preparation to join the military operation in Libya. More on that soon.

4:56pm

Overnight missile strikes, during which some 110 cruise missiles were launched, hit 20 of 22 targets, "with various levels of damage", the US military told Reuters.
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5:31pm

Libya's Al-Watyah air base, 170km southwest of Tripoli, was among the targets of Western air strikes overnight, Reuters has quoted an unnamed Libyan military official as saying.

They tried to attack the (base's) anti-aircraft defences. Some were damaged.


5:49pm

Among the headlines, you may think '"Odyssey Dawn" is the only military operation in action - but we understand each of the contributing nations has their own codename for enforcing UN Security Council resolution 1973:

Operation Odyssey Dawn - The US military operation.
Operation Ellamy - The UK military effort
Operation Mobile - The Canadian component.
Operation Harmattan- The French military operation.

If we find out why they're named those names, we'll let you know...

5:55pm

British special forces have been on the ground in Libya for weeks, preparing for possible operations, says German newsmagaine Focus.

Members of the Special Air Service and Special Boat Service have reportedly been noting the locations of potential targets, such as fighter jets and communications facilities.
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6:20pm

Vehicles belonging to forces loyal to Gaddafi explode in an air strike on the road between Benghazi and Ajdabiya.



6:31pm

More on that objection to the bombing by the African Union's Libya committee. Ramtane Lamamra, the AU's peace and security council head, said:

"The high level ad hoc committee has reaffirmed AU's conviction that there is a need for an urgent African action revolving around the following elements: first, the immediate cessation of hostilities. We would like the cooperation of the Libyan authorities to facilitate the delivery of humanitarian assistance to the needy population."

The AU commission is asked to convene in Addis Ababa on 25 March 2011, to bring together high representatives of the League of Arab States, the Organisation of Islamic Conference, the European Union and the United Nations.

6:35pm

Qatar isn't the only Arab country sending planes to join the campaign against Gaddafi. Aircraft from the United Arab Emirates are due to arrive at the Decimomannu air force base on the Italian island of Sardinia, says the AFP news agency.

The base is already hosting four Spanish F18 fighter jets that arrived yesterday.

British Tornado jets involved in last night's raid flew directly to Libya from Norfolk, England, it is understood.
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Latest from Al Jazeera:

6:52pm

As Gaddafi's tanks roll into the rebel-held city of Misurata, there are reports of many injuries amid fierce street fighting.

Mohamed, a member of the city's civil community, speaks to Al Jazeera by phone, and describes what has happened in his city over the past day.



7:10pm

Armed anti-Gaddafi fighters are agains advancing east from the city of Benghazi, in an attempt to break the siege imposed by Gaddafi's troops on Ajdabiya, Al Jazeera Arabic reports.

(Philip: I think that should be west.)


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6:52pm

As Gaddafi's tanks roll into the rebel-held city of Misurata, there are reports of many injuries amid fierce street fighting.

Mohamed, a member of the city's civil community, speaks to Al Jazeera by phone, and describes what has happened in his city over the past day.
Exactly. What good is a no fly zone without a no tank zone? Anyone who thought that this could be handled solely by shooting down Libyan planes was naive, stupid, or opportunistic.
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Exactly. What good is a no fly zone without a no tank zone? Anyone who thought that this could be handled solely by shooting down Libyan planes was naive, stupid, or opportunistic.
But it is a no tank zone. It's really a No Gaddafi Loyalist Zone. France is already doing tactical strikes on Gaddafi's armor. Didn't the resolution call for much more than just shooting planes? I'm pretty sure they have authorization to shoot anything that belongs to Gaddafi.
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7:19pm

Two AFP journalists, reporter Dave Clark and photographer Roberto Schmidt, have gone missing in Libya. They were accompanied by a photographer for Getty Images, Joe Raedle, who is also missing.

7:34pm

The US military is working to hand over control of the Libya operation to "a coalition" in the next few days, an official tells Reuters.
7:39pm

Norway's contribution of six F16 fighter jets to the international air campaign will set off for bases close to the African nation tomorrow morning, said Brig. Per Egil Rygg: We are also sending 120 pilots, technicians, security personnel and press officers.

Earlier today, Jens Stoltenberg, Norway's prime minister said: Norway will take its responsibility. We want to contribute to the resolution being carried out.

Denmark is also sending six F16 jets to join the operation.

7:44pm

More than 3,800 refugees crossed into Egypt from Libya yesterday, said UN officials.

8:00pm

Venezuela's Hugo Chavez says the airstrikes are killing civilians in Libya, and that the US and Europe shouldn't intervene. More on that when we get it...

8:04pm

Al Jazeera's Anita McNaught, reporting from Tripoli, says she is unable to confirm claims of the Gaddafi regime that last night's bombardment deliberately targeted civilians. She told us:

International press, despite repeated requests, have not been allowed to go to the sites of the airstrikes and can't corroborate in any way what happened last night.

8:13pm

A Tornado GR4 leaves RAF Marham in Norfolk, England earlier today. The UK defence secretary earlier said Tornado aircraft that took part in last night's operation took off from and returned to Marham, instead of using more local bases to Libya.



8:23pm

US House speaker, republican John Boehner, says president Obama must "define the scope of the Libya mission, for the American people, the congress and our troops" before any further military commitment is made.

8:25pm

Heavy anti-aircraft gunfire has just been reported in central Tripoli.

Sustained bursts were accompanied by tracer rounds and machine-gun fire, says Reuters' correspondent.
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The Libyan military has just announced a ceasefire to come into effect on Sunday, 9 p.m. Libyan time.

That's 10 minutes ago.

I guess that invalidates the ceasefire they announced two days ago.....


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The Libyan military has just announced a ceasefire to come into effect on Sunday, 9 p.m. Libyan time.

That's 10 minutes ago.

I guess that invalidates the ceasefire they announced two days ago.....


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Sounds like the Arabs do not have the backbone for this sort of stuff. They can't even stand behind and support their own decisions.

They are preparing their "blame the West" statements. I'm sure it will be all over the news Monday morning that the West are the bad guys aka aggressors.

1) I think the resolution was clear in it's intention: to protect the civilians through a NFZ. We know that what's actually happening is quite different: it's a coordinated attack against gaddafi's forces, designed to cripple his army. But that leaves the rebels. Are they allowed to counterattack?

2) Someone already posted about that ealier, about how the west will get blamed if they act, and will get blamed if they don't act with the difference being there's no danger of casualties for not acting. Is there anyone here who seriously thought that region will be a fountain of gratitude?
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1) I think the resolution was clear in it's intention: to protect the civilians through a NFZ. We know that what's actually happening is quite different: it's a coordinated attack against gaddafi's forces, designed to cripple his army. But that leaves the rebels. Are they allowed to counterattack?

2) Someone already posted about that ealier, about how the west will get blamed if they act, and will get blamed if they don't act with the difference being there's no danger of casualties for not acting. Is there anyone here who seriously thought that region will be a fountain of gratitude?
The UN Resolution covers more than just a the establishment of a NFZ.
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In the Pentagon briefing today, the Vice-Admiral made it clear that Gadhaffi's palace was not on the target list.

Well why not? Command and control centres, he said, are on the target list.


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In the Pentagon briefing today, the Vice-Admiral made it clear that Gadhaffi's palace was not on the target list.

Well why not? Command and control centres, he said, are on the target list.


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ANd he calls himself "Colonel". That makes him a military target.
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