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The assertion that they are right wing ideologies is one only held by left wing revisionists. Please explain to me how National Socialism is a right wing ideology?
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The Nazi's were much more Nationalist which is right wing in Germany then they were left wing Socialist.

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The assertion that they are right wing ideologies is one only held by left wing revisionists. Please explain to me how National Socialism is a right wing ideology?
If not, it would lead to the absurd situation in wich capital would exist into a kind of society whose main concept was absence of capital. You cant have both in same time : either there is capital or there is not.
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The assertion that they are right wing ideologies is one only held by left wing revisionists. Please explain to me how National Socialism is a right wing ideology?
It is if you kill all socialists, since that leaves only the nationalist part

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The assertion that they are right wing ideologies is one only held by left wing revisionists. Please explain to me how National Socialism is a right wing ideology?
Just becaue you & a bunch of other right wingers want to re-write history & politics to suit your own prejudices don't make it so. You have proven nothing but your own ignorance & addiction to simplistic & self-serving explanations of complex phenomena.

Nazism specifically & Fascism generally had (initially at least) a populist component that attracted some people who had toyed with forms of socialism. That was, however, only ever part of the movement, and not the dominant part. That was an almost religious nationalism (sometimes with racial overtones) that put these movements firmly in bed with the far right. Look at fascist movements in Spain, Romania, Ireland, England, France & Belgium. They were all linked to the right as well. The 'socialist' wing of the Nazi party died with Rohm. This is no accident of history and nor is the near universal alignment of Fascist movements wiht the political 'right' in Europe.

American right wingers and their hangers on can try to re-draw the political definitions of the time & re-write the historical record all they want. All they are doing is engaging in crude & ahistorical propaganda.
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It is if you kill all socialists, since that leaves only the nationalist part

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If your spoiler is right then none of so called "socialist" states was socialist. Or communism and socialism had nothing in common with them.
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It was part of larger, similar discussion here:

http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...=hitler&page=6

Too far from OP to elaborate on here though - grtz.
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