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South Ossetian Conflict Discuss the conflict between Georgia and Russia over South Ossetia.

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Old 21 Aug 08, 12:20
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As someone that studies history, I could not possibly agree more. Whereas I understand one of the quotes in the article about self flagellation, something that we seem to do quite a bit of in the US, whitewashing history does not equate to patriotism. It is politically driven revisionism whose ultimate goal is blind nationalism, and that is indeed an alarming development. Frankly, I am not surprised that Putin is ramrodding this misguided effort; I have said before, and I will say it again, Putin is a KGB colonel and a card carrying member of the Communist party. I am willing to bet that his ultimate goal is to resurrect the Soviet Union in spirit if not in form.
Agreed. I have been saying the same thing for a while now. This will be the "new" Soviet Union founded on capitalism and oil, driven by Putin. We previosuly outspent the Soviet Union, but that won't happen this time.
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The article definitely puts 'nation' back in the term, International Relations, and quickly puts the non-state actors (terrorists, criminal organizations, NGO's) that have dominated the New World Order image in perspective. Terrorists have always been in the background, but when the big elephants move, one has to pay attention, ask any zookeeper.

If one looks at U.S. Army doctrine and writings for the past 5-7 years, it is focused on counterinsurgency, much like the army literature during the Vietnam war. After Vietnam, it took a little over a decade to redirect doctrine, training, force structure to deal with the potential threat in Europe and be in a position to drop whole nation-states in quick wars. I hope this puts contingency planning, force structure and training on a more balance approach for a full spectrum of future threats.

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... I do believe that is a fine article, and the best one that I have read on subject to date.
that may be.| because what we've read, prior this one, were mostly a not-so-fine articles.| still, the author of the article in question tends to oversimplify matters and fails to realise that the main enemies of the NWO are residing in the US itself, and not elsewhere .
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that may be.| because what we've read, prior this one, were mostly a not-so-fine articles.| still, the author of the article in question tends to oversimplify matters and fails to realise that the main enemies of the NWO are residing in the US itself, and not elsewhere .
That sounds like a statement right out of Pravda at the height of the Cold War. Russia, of course, has never done anything detrimental to the World Order at any time...

Meanwhile, Putin I suppose is merely planning a huge number of barbecues all over Eastern Europe and he needs all those tanks and men to carry his food, and of course they are all heavily armed because the squirrels are extremely dangerous in those countries.

Now let's see...oh, yeah...it was Russia that just threatened to nuke Poland, wasn't it?
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... the Cold War..Putin..needs all those tanks and men..Russia..threatened to nuke Poland...
i didn't trust that the USSR and the US would ever clash for real, back then; and i do not trust that Russia and America would conflict, now.| the geopolitical game is being played; but we are not supposed to see what really happens...
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that may be.| because what we've read, prior this one, were mostly a not-so-fine articles.| still, the author of the article in question tends to oversimplify matters and fails to realise that the main enemies of the NWO are residing in the US itself, and not elsewhere .
Please expand on your thoughts, I am interested in seeing where you are going with your line of thinking, and if you can dig up any pertinent information that relates to that, I would be interested in reading it.
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