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South Ossetian Conflict Discuss the conflict between Georgia and Russia over South Ossetia.

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georgia's military

What does the supreme collective know about what forces and kit they have, geography and the chances of them holding out until the russians pull the plug on the operation.
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Old 12 Aug 08, 10:26
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the chances of them holding out until the russians pull the plug on the operation.
I can only answer this one. The answer is... none. I heard Russia has 100,000 troops by the border. Game over for Georgia.
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I can only answer this one. The answer is... none. I heard Russia has 100,000 troops by the border. Game over for Georgia.
* 1st Infantry Brigade, located in Gori
* 2nd Infantry Brigade, located in Senaki
* 3rd Infantry Brigade, located in Kutaisi
* 4th Infantry Brigade, located in Vaziani
* 5th Infantry Brigade, located in Khelvachauri (temporary distribution place) and Khoni
* Artillery Brigade, located in Gori and Khoni
* Military Engineering Brigade, located in Gori
* Separate Light Infantry Battalion, located in Adlia
* Separate Tank Battalion, located in Gori
* Separate Air Defense Battalion, located in Kutaisi
* Communication Battalion, located in Saguramo
* Technical Reconnaissance Battalion, located in Kobuleti
* Military Police Battalion, located in Tbilisi
* Medical Battalion, located in Saguramo

The strength of Land Forces is 26,739 from which 2,215 are officers, 24,508 NCOs (contracting) and 16 civilians.

Main battle tanks

* T-72sim1 - 82[5]
* T-55 - 110

AIFVs/APCs

* BMP-1 - 80 units
* BMP-2 - 120 units
* BTR-80 - 75 units
* MT-LB - 64 units
* Otokar Cobra - 100

Towed artillery

* 2A36 Giatsint-B - 12 units
* 2A65 Msta-B - 18 units
* 2A18 (D-30) - 120 units

Self-propelled artillery

* 2S7 Pion - 12 units
* 2S19 Msta-S - 3 units
* 2S3 Akatsiya - 13 units
* VZ 77 Dana - 24 units

Multiple Launch Rocket Systems

* RM-70 - 48 units
* BM-21 Grad - 120 units
* LAR-160- 15 units

Mortars

* 2B11 120 mm - 240 units
* M-38/43 120 mm - 365 units
* M75 120 mm – 250 units

Assault Rifles and Carbines

* M4A3 (Colt RO977) - 4,000[6]
* G36K - Georgian Ministry of Internal Affairs special units
* AKM/AKMS
* AK-74
* AKS-74U
* Tavor TAR-21 - Georgian Ministry of Internal Affairs special units

Machine Guns

* PK machine gun
* NSV
* Mk 19 Mod 3

Sniper Rifles

* SVD
* Remington 700
* Zastava M93 Black Arrow - 12.7mm heavy, bolt-action sniper rifle
* Barrett M82A1 - 20 purchased in Israel[7]

Aircraft

* 8 Su-25KM
* 5 Su-25UB
* 4 Su-25
* 6 L-39

Helicopters

* 1 Mi-35
* 3 Mi-24P
* 4 Mi-24V
* 18 Mi-8
* 8 UH-1H
* 7 Mi-2
Air Defence

* ?? SA-11 Gadfly (unconfirmed)
* ?? SA-3 Goa
* ?? SA-5 Gammon
* 18 SA-8
* ?? SA-7A/B Grail
* ?? SA-14 Gremlin
* ?? SA-16 Gimlet
* 35 ZSU-23-4
* 15 S-60
* 40 MT-LB with towed ZU-23-2
* 30 Grom man-portable air-defense system missile launchers with 100 missiles[8]
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Poor innocent helpless fachist georgia
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* 1st Infantry Brigade, located in Gori
* 2nd Infantry Brigade, located in Senaki
* 3rd Infantry Brigade, located in Kutaisi
* 4th Infantry Brigade, located in Vaziani
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* 15 S-60
* 40 MT-LB with towed ZU-23-2
* 30 Grom man-portable air-defense system missile launchers with 100 missiles[8]


see, this is helpful and a good post. insults and crying out loud are not.
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What got up his nose?

Anyways, back to georgia, any info anyone ive been fireing blanks trying to learn what they have.
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Poor innocent helpless fachist georgia
The Russian is always at your boot or at your throat.
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That list is off of wikipedia, any other list back this up, if they have that amount, a defence is possible,
obviously the cannot contend with the whole might of the russian military, but then the russians cant afford to send everything, georgia could however with stiff resolve give the russians a very tough time, a lot will depend upon leadership.
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That list is off of wikipedia.
You noticed that too huh? I was looking up info on the Georgian army yesterday and thought that look familiar.
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Hard to find . . .

Apparently no one with a website ever thought anything happening in Georgia would be important enough to draw attention:

some info here [scroll toward the bottom] http://www.strategypage.com/fyeo/how...s/armies/e.asp

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http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...gia/index.html
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This is somewhat interesting. Anybody can comment on how true this is?

http://www.russiatoday.com/news/news/28892
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Not very. The US started to provide training to Georgia in 2002.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/gtep.htm

Did you notice any American arms in the pictures you have seen? You have seen some uniforms, and kevlars. Any M-1s, or anything? The Georgians have been buying more Soviet/Russian crap. It is much cheaper, easy to procure, and they already use it. It is some blustering by yet another state controlled Russian media site (russiatoday is an English site run by RIA-Novosti)
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http://www.cdi.org/pdfs/georgia.pdf
training - in 2002. But money came in 1994
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And Russian officers got the same training. IMET is a program where military personnel from foreign countries get to come to the US and receive training. The purpose of the program is to build relations at the military level.
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