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| Orders of Battle Orders-of-battle, TO&E's, and related information on who fought where and what they brought to the battle. |
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12 Jun 06, 20:29
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Real Name: Sean
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Dak Oob 1941
For the Red Orchestra Mod Burning Sands, I need to find out the order of battle for the following divisions to the companie or battalion level:
90th Light
15th Panzer
21st Panzer
5th Light
Italian units will not be needed at all, since we are not doing Italians until after our first release. If no one can tell me anything, please direct me to somewhere I can find this information out.
Thank You
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12 Jun 06, 23:44
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Real Name: Mark Ames
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Crin, this is the sight I use for the mod I'm involved with:
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/...liederung2.htm
Not too hard to muddle through, however takes some patience. If that doesn't work, let me know. |
13 Jun 06, 14:46
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Real Name: Gerry Proudfoot
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A quick note,...
...5th light division and 21st pz Div are the same unit,...the former was renamed the latter when a few more troops were added in the summer of 41
I have some info at home and will post something for you tonight. It is not perfect or 100% but it will fill in many of the blanks.
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By Operation Crusader the OoB and TO&E for German forces had settled down with the influx of reinforcements between May and October.
Attached to HQ DAK:
Kampfstaffel Afrika (a mixed pz coy,...sort of)
288th Special Battalion (Brandenbergers?)
Ist Bn of 18th Flak Reg't (Luft)
Ist Bn of 33rd Flak Reg't (Luft)
606th AT Bn
617th AT Bn
104th Art Brigade
Afrika Art Brigade
21st Panzer consisted of:
3rd Recon Battalion
5th Pz Reg't w/ 2 panzer battalions
104th Motor Reg't w/ two motorized infantry battalions
708th Inf Gun Coy
200th pioneer battalion
605 JgPz Battalion (Jgpz Is) [attached]
39 AT Battalion
155th Art Reg't (3 battalions
15th Panzer consisted of:
33rd Recon Battalion
15th Motorcycle Battalion
8th Pz Reg't w/ 2 panzer battalions
Ist Bn of 115th Motorized reg't
2nd MG Battalion
707th Inf Gun Coy
33rd Pioneer Battalion
33rd At Battalion
33rd Art Reg't
90th Light Division (Afrika) consisted of:
580th Recon Coy
IInd Bn of 115th Motorized Reg't (from 15th Pz Div)
361st Infantry Reg't w/ 2 Battalions
155th Infantry Reg't w/ 3 Battalions
IIIrd Bn of 255th Inf Reg't
IIIrd Bn of 347th Inf Reg't
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18 Jun 06, 20:08
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Real Name: Sean
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Sorry, a little more..
The team wants more information, this time throughout the entire African campaign (don't worry about 1940 right now), including British/Commonwealth and Italian troops. I know this is a good bit, so if anyone could give me a link to where I can find all of this on my own I'll be happy.
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18 Jun 06, 20:41
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I don't have internet sources but I'll rifle through various books and games and see what I can come up with for arrival of divisions and brigades in the theatre from Sept 1940 through Dec 1942. I have less information on the Torch side and the forces their but will through in what I can.
Will this be of any help to you?
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18 Jun 06, 21:05
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Real Name: Kevin Betts
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Finding detailed information on the Italians is a nightmare compared to the Germans and the British/Commonwealth formations.
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18 Jun 06, 21:09
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Real Name: Sean
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I said the same thing once in our forums. I don't really want to take the time for the Italians until we seriously think of including them in the mod, they aren't in priority.
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19 Jun 06, 22:03
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 How does one do a game about the war in the desert without 60% of the axis forces??? 
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Words ought to be a little wild, for they are the assault of thoughts on the unthinking - John Maynard Keynes.
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20 Jun 06, 09:38
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It's too much for the first release. We want to get an alpha out, and maybe after the first or second beta we will start working on them. A good part of the team hasn't done anything like this, so we're not going to spend the next 5 years on our first release just to get everything. That's what patches are for.
I pushed the team for having Italians in the first place, but I agree with the team leader that we shouldn't focus on Italians right now.
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27 Jun 06, 22:18
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Real Name: Sean
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Seriously, can anyone help me with this?
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01 Jul 06, 21:16
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Sorry, been offline for most of the last week. Give me a few days and I'll I see what I can dig up for 1940-41 for the Brits and Germs.
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06 Jul 06, 10:44
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Real Name: Pierre
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Originally Posted by Feldwebel Crin
The team wants more information, this time throughout the entire African campaign (don't worry about 1940 right now), including British/Commonwealth and Italian troops. I know this is a good bit, so if anyone could give me a link to where I can find all of this on my own I'll be happy.
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Found this for you
http://cgsc.cdmhost.com/cgi-bin/show...ll8&CISOPTR=55
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