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Red Sea-Dead Sea Project

If this project becomes reality it will be a game changer. First discussed in 2013, it is just now entering its initial phase.


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Project Concept For RSDS/ Initial Phase - Red Sea Desalination Project at Aqaba

1. Introduction
This project proposal (Red Sea Desalination Project at Aqaba) describes a proposed joint initiative to promote regional cooperation among Israel, Jordan and the Palestinian Authority (the Beneficiary Parties). It is undertaken in the context of the urgent need for potable water in the Region and describes the proposed development of a sea intake structure, desalination plant, reject brine pipeline and associated infrastructure works from which all thr ee Beneficiary Parties will benefit.

2. Project Objectives

The main objectives of the Project is to start with an initial phase of the RSDS project to desalinate (80-100) MCM/yr which will be partly swapped with Israel at Aqaba (about 50mcm/yr), and to supply AWC with the remaining quantities in order to receive water from Israel for the swapped quantities in the Northern Jordan Valley to alleviate the water shortages in the Northern and other Governorates in Jordan. Also this initial phase will be the base of the overall project which aims at increasing the desalinated water quantities to meet the water deficit all over Jordan. The brine water in this initial phase will be discharged to the Dead Sea, the coming phases will be implemented in stages according to MWI plans for supply vs. demand time targets. It is anticipated for future expansion of the proposed initial phase, that the brine will also be discharged to the Dead Sea to save it from further decrease in its water level and area.

3. Project Concept

In order to increase the water resources in Jordan to meet the increasing demand,

- MWI is planning to start with an initial phase, which includes the desalination of about (80-100) MCM/yr by extracting (177-222) MCM/yr of sea water from the Red Sea at the Northern Intake location. The intake structure to be constructed to abstract one third of the ultimate capacity for future sea water extraction of 2.2 billion MCM/yr with the brine water to be discharged to the Dead Sea at this initial phase.
- The sea water will be treated and desalinated at Aqaba, at a location of about 5-11 km’s north of the Aqaba airport or any other suitable location; taking into consideration that flood protection shall be investigated and considered in the design and implementation of the treatment and desalination plant location.
- The Ownership of the desalination plant, the pipelines, and all other associated infrastructure will be implemented on the Jordanian territory and will be 100% owned by Jordan. The cost of transporting potable water from the desalination plant for local use shall be covered by each Beneficiary Party taking water delivery.
- The proposed Project is to be implemented on a Build, Operate and Transfer (BOT) basis. Israel and Jordan will both have to conclude agreements, so that Israel will buy an allocated share of the potable water on” a take or pay basis” from the desalinated plant in Aqaba at the BOT contractor’s cost, and Jordan will buy the same amount from Lake Tiberius at agreed price of about $0.42/m3.
- Based on previous studies under the Red Sea-Dead Sea Water Conveyance Study Program, it appears that:

- the proposed intake structure, reject brine pipeline and associated infrastructure are technically feasible;

- there are some environmental impacts but these can be mitigated;

- the expected social impacts are limited and can be mitigated.


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See the highlight part below. Any drama will create hardship for all. This will encourage all parties to be civil with each other. Just brilliant...IMO.



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That project — first announced in December 2013 — will take water from the Red Sea, near Israel’s southernmost city of Eilat, and use gravity to carry the water 137 miles via the kingdom of Jordan to the southern part of the Dead Sea, adjacent to Israel’s Arava desert. There it will be desalinated, with the brine deposited in the shrinking Dead Sea and the fresh water transferred into Israel for still-to-be-built desert farms. In exchange, a water pipeline will be built from Israel into Jordan’s capital, Amman, and Israel will augment the already significant amount of water it provides to the Palestinians in the West Bank, particularly in the Hebron area.

The strategic genius of the plan is that it weaves vital economic interests of these sometimes-antagonists together. Even should Jordan or the West Bank someday fall to radical rejectionists, it would be nearly impossible for those leaders to entirely break the water ties established here without creating substantial hardship for their populations.

But the biggest news out of the press conference isn’t what amounts to an update on the Red Sea-Dead Sea project. It is that senior water officials from Israel and the Palestinian Authority shared a stage and warmly engaged with each other. It is, so to speak, a high-water mark in Israeli-Palestinian history regarding this precious resource.

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Figure X.11 — Dead Sea Level evolution since 1800.



Figure X.12 — Dead Sea reduction between 1931 and 1998.



Figure X.13 — Red Dead Canal and development project.
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Looks like a recycling of quite an old idea from the 60s. They couldn't get all the parties to agree then and I suspect the same will still be true today.
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The Gaza Strip should also look into a desalinization plant on the Med. They have Natural Gas that can fuel the boilers. The politicians will make sure they get first call on the water, though.

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The Gaza Strip should also look into a desalinization plant on the Med. They have Natural Gas that can fuel the boilers. The politicians will make sure they get first call on the water, though.

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The Gaza Strip has no natural gas - there is an off shore field that according to the Oslo agreement belongs to the Palestinian Authority but the field is entirely undeveloped as the Israeli Navy has been denying access whilst the strip is under the control of Hamas. From my own experience (I was the manager of of the consultants who did the financial planning to develop the Qatari North Dome) the field is at least ten years away from producing gas assuming that agreement can be reached to exploit it.
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The Israelis and Egyptians also have Gas Fields they can access, but they have access to fresh water so there is not so much need. I read an article a while back that pumping of wells in Israel and Gaza have induced salt water intrusion into the Aquifers from the Med. Desalinization is preferable to ruining the wells. You need a cheap boiler fuel to produce less expensive water.

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The Israelis and Egyptians also have Gas Fields they can access, but they have access to fresh water so there is not so much need. I read an article a while back that pumping of wells in Israel and Gaza have induced salt water intrusion into the Aquifers from the Med.
how? It is possible for very sloppy well management to pollute aquifers if the bores pass through them to reach the very much deeper oil or gas reservoir. Brine is often pumped down some wells to force oil up others and if the well lining has not been done properly can seep out en route but I can think of no mechanism for creating intrusion from the Med.
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If you pump enough fresh water from an Aquifer it either runs dry or starts to absorb from neighboring formations. Places vary in whether the water under them has fresh water or brine. New Orleans for instance has to use the Mississippi River for its municipal water after they treat it. The water underneath is brine.

Pumping in Israel and Gaza tends to pull in Brine from formations under the Med. If you like I can ask Dave to horn in?

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If you pump enough fresh water from an Aquifer it either runs dry or starts to absorb from neighboring formations. Places vary in whether the water under them has fresh water or brine. New Orleans for instance has to use the Mississippi River for its municipal water after they treat it. The water underneath is brine.

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Yes pumping water from the aquifer can do this but it has nothing to do with oil or gas wells. It can also happen quite naturally as it has in parts of Qatar
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I was not talking about oil and gas wells. I was talking about water wells.

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The Gaza Strip should also look into a desalinization plant on the Med. They have Natural Gas that can fuel the boilers. The politicians will make sure they get first call on the water, though.

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Jordan's first desalination plant in Aqaba opened just a few months ago. That plant will play a big part in the success of the Red Sea-Dead Sea Project.


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Israel, Jordan and the Palestinian Authority, which all share the Dead Sea’s shoreline, are now trying to halt the decline with the ambitious, long-discussed and controversial $1.1bn “Red-Dead” project: to divert water from the Red Sea, turn some of it into drinking water and pipe the rest north into the Dead Sea. The pipeline will start at Aqaba, the Jordanian port, where a desalination plant will be built. It will run through Jordan, generating hydroelectric power from its final stretch when it plunges several hundred metres below sea level into the Dead Sea, the world’s lowest land elevation. Freshwater from Aqaba will be bought by Israel’s southern Arava region; Jordan will buy Israeli water from the Sea of Galilee; and the Palestinian Authority will buy water from an Israeli desalination plant as part of a water swap. (Pumping it north from Aqaba would be too expensive.)

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If this project becomes reality it will be a game changer. First discussed in 2013, it is just now entering its initial phase.
Have to spread more rep before I can do you again, but this is an intriguing subject and thread topic.
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