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I've always seen the two as quite different.

Star Trek (STTOS) had a mix of Twilight Zone settings and typical Western TV show plots of the period going in it. The crew each episode ended up somewhere facing some sort of injustice, evil, etc., and Kirk (as the Marshall / Sheriff), who you know full well won't lose, would kick it's @$$ with his posse and get the girl, after which everybody lived happily until next week's episode.

Star Wars on the other hand was good vs evil Saturday afternoon movie matinee stuff. The hero is an underdog, the bad guys seemingly all-powerful. It's Indiana Jones only not as good and with tons more special effects. Of course, for the 12 to 20 male bunch the special effects, lots of explosions, and whup whup, light saber duels is more than enough wow factor to keep them coming back and drag their poor girlfriend along... assuming they have one...
They're both different in many regards, but both are innately optimistic. Their themes are different and they have a different tones, but both are upbeat at their core. Which is part of why they stood out when placed against the fears and mentalities of the time. Star Wars came out in that depressing post-Vietnam malaise when Hollywood was dominated by disaster movies and grim portents about the future; Trek was a beacon of hope and confidence in an era where science had brought us nuclear war and the promise of technology as an inherent good had grown sour. They were not pastiches of one another but shared that optimism.
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ST was more like Horotio Hornblower on warp drive in some ways, but that analogy doesn't get tracvtion like a variant of "WagonTrain".

SW with the concept of "The Force" goes to a place seldom visited on ST, and with a slightly more than secular approach to Good versus Evil as shown in ST, one of a more generic spiritual nature, grabs at a different and deeper level of our cultural psyche'.
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At first I wasn't impressed with the J.J. Abrams films. But for the most part they're pretty cool.
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