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Marty mac Fly and the bill of rights

You all remember him.




I was asking to my self . If Marty was able to meet your founding fathers , and ,regarding the America of 2017 :

"what Amendements you'd like him to try to modify in order to make life better today ? "

Really dumb , isn't it ?
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As I am more familiar with the British Bill of Rights which predates the American one by a century 'fraid I can't help you.
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1. A man's home is his personal refuge, so, a single personal place of residence, shall never be subject to taxation or confiscation except for cause of just debt other than taxes.

2. The pay and compensation of elected members of Congress and the President shall be set by a public vote every four years.

3. Congress shall produce a yearly budget that is balanced, (ie., deficit spending is made illegal) except in time of war.

Clarify the Commerce Clause to make it impossible for the government to use it like they do today.
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A well regulated and maintained road system, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and drive huge SUV's, shall not be infringed.

A well regulated and unmonitored Internet, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to download and stream porn or anti-CNN memes, shall not be infringed.
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Do away with Eminent Domain. For a country that calls itself free and talks about how great capitalism is allowing for the government to take the land for what they call "public use" is an embarrassment.
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You all remember him.




I was asking to my self . If Marty was able to meet your founding fathers , and ,regarding the America of 2017 :

"what Amendements you'd like him to try to modify in order to make life better today ? "

Really dumb , isn't it ?
Michael J Fox is Canadian though
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I Ignored it Paul.
So he might add a things or two about maple syrup and caribous may be.Or change the 2nd amendment?
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I Ignored it Paul.
So he might add a things or two about maple syrup and caribous may be.Or change the 2nd amendment?
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Do away with Eminent Domain. For a country that calls itself free and talks about how great capitalism is allowing for the government to take the land for what they call "public use" is an embarrassment.
Eminent domain is an integral part of sovereignty. As such, the Bill of Rights specifically protects property owners' rights...

Amendment V...
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
The power of eminent domain has often been abused, but it is an essential power of government.

The framers did foresee the likelihood of the Federal government abusing its powers... So they included this item in Article V...

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.
If I was advising Marty McFly on his Back to the Future trip to the Constitutional Convention, I would advise him to make Article V conventions of the States mandatory every 20 years and empower the States to remove all Federal judges by a vote of 2/3 of the States... Including the Supreme Court. Rolling forward to the early 20th Century, I would have him shoot everyone who voted for the 16th, 17th and 18th amendments... And anyone who even thought about messing with the 2nd, 9th and 10th amendments.
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On the Supreme Court and federal judges: Just add language that the courts shall advise and recommend on the legality of legislation. In other words, they can't become the arbiters of law, legislate from the bench, or anything like that. They can decide a case is unconstitutional and in favor of the party suing or whatever, but it would still take congress acting to change the law.

That takes away the current power of the courts as the final say on anything and everything in terms of law. So, they can declare something unconstitutional and even put a stay on its implementation, but they can't single handedly make law (like Roe v. Wade) or get rid of a law other than to say it's not legal and needs to be removed from the books.

Judicial review of judges would be good too. That happens in Arizona. Few are removed, but you at least get to keep them a little honest since they can be voted off the bench.
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I Ignored it Paul.
So he might add a things or two about maple syrup and caribous may be.Or change the 2nd amendment?
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Great question Seb. I believe I know where your going.

I'd change nothing until talking to them and ask just what they meant, in modern American English.

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How about an amendment to Balance the Budget?

Might be nice if everyone stopped selling your kids & the next half dozen generations into debt slavery to whoever picks up the tab.

If this continues, the people of the early 21st century will go down as the the most hated ever, and for good reason.
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3. Congress shall produce a yearly budget that is balanced, (ie., deficit spending is made illegal) except in time of war.
Prepare for eternal war then
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