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South Asia and World Terrorism Discuss the War in Afghanistan, civil war in Pakistan, and events around the Indian sub-continent.

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Greater Involvement of Armed Forces in the West

Counter terrorism is generally a police operation, including armed police.

Since the UK has started moving troops back from Germany to bases in the UK, a great role is seen for them in counter terror. I also note the Australians are looking at a bigger role for the Army, having suffered a number of terror plots.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-40627851
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If you don't mind collateral damage get the SAS to do it.

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If you don't mind collateral damage get the SAS to do it.

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I think the SAS are already deployed in Britain, covertly, against the threat of a marauding attack in a major city.
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It's against the law in the US, in general. It should remain so.

IF your military is doing civilian duties then they are down grading their military training.
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It's against the law in the US, in general. It should remain so.

IF your military is doing civilian duties then they are down grading their military training.
Weren't troops deployed in the LA riots some years ago?
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During Vietnam active duty troops were sent to Chicago and Washington as well. The National Guard should and will be sent first.

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In the U.S. the National Guard is under control of the governor of their state. They can be called up for major disturbances by the governor. They can also be called to active federal duty.

Doing so is a major political statement. Mayors of major cities are reluctant to ask the governor to send in the National Guard, it is admitting that the local situation has gotten out of control.

Active duty,, Reserve and National Guard forces are often used for disaster relief work.
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Active duty troops can be used for law enforcement. But that would be an extraordinary not an ordinary emergency.

The "Posse Comitatus Act" is the federal law which limits use of active duty military forces for local law enforcement except in extreme situations.
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In the U.S. the National Guard is under control of the governor of their state. They can be called up for major disturbances by the governor. They can also be called to active federal duty.

Doing so is a major political statement. Mayors of major cities are reluctant to ask the governor to send in the National Guard, it is admitting that the local situation has gotten out of control.

Active duty,, Reserve and National Guard forces are often used for disaster relief work.
Right, I recall it was the National Guard and I remember seeing armour on the streets of LA too.

In the UK I think it is a capacity issue. There are limited armed police units and many targets to protect. Bringing in the Army ups the capacity. For some reason Islamic terrorism has not become a big political issue in the UK and the involvement of the Army has not attracted a lot of attention.
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..In the UK I think it is a capacity issue. There are limited armed police units and many targets to protect. Bringing in the Army ups the capacity. For some reason Islamic terrorism has not become a big political issue in the UK and the involvement of the Army has not attracted a lot of attention.
For all we know, there are armed SAS men on the streets around sensitive areas like Parliament and Buck House etc in civilian clothes..
It's a pity the ordinary Brit bobby isn't armed too, for example the one who was stabbed by the Westminster bridge terrorist was unarmed and he was supposed to be guarding Parliament, you couldn't make it up!

PS- but let's never forget all of us ordinary citizens ARE armed, not with guns but with our VOTES which we can use to get rid of any politician or party who we feel isn't up to the job. I vote for the anti-immigration party UKIP, and if I ever vote for any of the other parties you can measure me up for a straitjacket..

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