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I never realized what a low frontal profile the M1A1 has.



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I remember going to the Armor Museum at Ft Knox years ago. They had a German Tiger Tank there and the deck was about even with my eyes. The deck on the Abrams was about chest high.
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I remember going to the Armor Museum at Ft Knox years ago. They had a German Tiger Tank there and the deck was about even with my eyes. The deck on the Abrams was about chest high.
Hoping to visit that museum soon!
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Hoping to visit that museum soon!
Its gone. The Army shipped all the vehicles to Fort Benning some years ago for a new Armor museum, and from what I understand they still have not built it. Pretty much the Army has been dumping its museums left and right. Seems they think history is not that important.

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High profiles of the wheeled armored vehicle may be due to anti-IED requirements. A V-slope hull with no room so everything moves upward.
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High profiles of the wheeled armored vehicle may be due to anti-IED requirements. A V-slope hull with no room so everything moves upward.
I'd agree with that. The AMV35(far left in picture) is designed to withstand blast equivalent of 10 kg of TNT underneath. Suspension is hydropneumatic and height adjustment is proposed as an option.
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Its gone. The Army shipped all the vehicles to Fort Benning some years ago for a new Armor museum, and from what I understand they still have not built it. Pretty much the Army has been dumping its museums left and right. Seems they think history is not that important.

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odd i think that US tanks ever had greater height than most other tanks. to set an example, the M1A2 has 8ft tall, and the T-90 has 7,3 ft. i don't know if the T-90 has the same crew height limit as T-72, and M1A2 hasn't. is this an shortcoming in russian designs or US Army has too much tall tank soldiers?

looking this way, M1 looks way taller than T-90. the AA 12,7mm Kord adds at least 2 ft to T-90 sillouete.



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Its gone. The Army shipped all the vehicles to Fort Benning some years ago for a new Armor museum, and from what I understand they still have not built it. Pretty much the Army has been dumping its museums left and right. Seems they think history is not that important.

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odd i think that US tanks ever had greater height than most other tanks. to set an example, the M1A2 has 8ft tall, and the T-90 has 7,3 ft. i don't know if the T-90 has the same crew height limit as T-72, and M1A2 hasn't. is this an shortcoming in russian designs or US Army has too much tall tank soldiers?

looking this way, M1 looks way taller than T-90. the AA 12,7mm Kord adds at least 2 ft to T-90 sillouete.



doesn't it depend on how much leg room they have? height of the tank doesn't matter if the leg room is adequate ??
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Isn't work suppose to start on the M1A3 Abrams and if it does go forward the Marines should get it first as opposed to the U.S.Army since the Marines have been operating the A1Abrams longer than the U.S.Army .
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Isn't work suppose to start on the M1A3 Abrams and if it does go forward the Marines should get it first as opposed to the U.S.Army since the Marines have been operating the A1Abrams longer than the U.S.Army .
usually the USMC gets the good stuff last
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Well that stinks. I hope Trump and Mattis do something to correct that problem. The Abrams is a great tank we need to keep it upgraded to meet any potential threats, also we need to get more breaching and bridging Abrams out to all our heavy units and also look at developing a SPH variant to replace the Paladin.
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