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Get Your Troops off-planet, and as many Civilians as you can possibly carry. I am assuming that you have some Transports available.
Let me know the current situation with your Troops, and Transports.
Otherwise - the Phoenix Assault Fleet is standing by - together with the Attican Battle Fleet, one of the Atrtican Bombing Forces, and other Units.

You can land People on the nearby Planet Omicron III ( Xin Shijie ).
This has a breathable but smelly Atmosphere - with a high Methane content.
Warning - do not light any flames there, the whole Atmosphere may ignite explosively. Then you would also have a problem with much too much CO2.

This Planet has SIX Massive new Bases under Construction here - with Construction Workers of the ACE Attican Construction Engineers working on them. Navigational Coordiantes are provided for these

Help will be on the way - Phoenix is Requisitioning EVERY Ship - to handle Evacuation. Evacuation will also be to the Planet Omicron III.
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Urgent Action

Stardate – February 2138

From - The Departments of Defence and of The Interior of The Phoenix Confederation

Recent Developments on Orienta

NEWS FLASH
The Zetans have perpetrated a Vile Outrage on the Planet Orienta.

Zetan Troops ( Ground Forces ) were given “safe conduct” to leave the Planet – and their Transports and Escorting Space Warships were given free rein to depart in Peace.

Thirty minutes after the last Zetan ship left the System - there were a series of massive thermo-nuclear explosions. One in each of the 18 “camps” and 3 in the City center. The estimated yield was around 20 Megatons each.
The City had been used by the Zetan Forces as their Headquarters – but the 18 “camps” held 4,000,000 Humans of Oriental origins, who had been living in conditions of near starvation as Prisoners of the Zetans.

Approximately 6,000,000 ( 6 Million ) Humans were killed immediately - with millions more that are destined to get sick from radiation.
As a result of approximately 420 megatonnes of explosives, the City has been replaced with a crater a mile deep and 5 miles across. Literally 1,000’s of tonnes of fall out was thrown up into the Ionosphere and will be spread throughout the planet.

First – SCRATCH All future Developments on Orienta – for the time being

Second – A State Of Emergency is hereby Declared - Throughout the Entire Confederation and Dominions.

For the time being ALL Ships of ever possible kind are to be Requisitioned – Compensation will be paid later for All Losses in Revenue, etc.
All Ships of every kind are hereby Ordered to Jettison ALL Cargo and Surplus Materials into Space, hopefully they may be able to collect Cargoes and Materials later.

ALL Ships are to proceed to the Omicron System via designated “wayspoints” – and to Land on the Planet Orienta ( Omicron III ) in designated Safe Landing Zones, the necessary Navigational Coordinates will be provided.
There, they are to undertake the immediate evacuation of ALL Civilian Personnel – who are estimated to number approximately 56 Million or so. These are all to be evacuated, before they succumb to the effects of radiation.

These People are to be “ferried” in as many trips as are necessary – to locations adjacent to the Six Bases which are Under Construction on the Planet Omicron II ( Xin Shijie ).
WARNING - No Naked Lights or Flames of any kind are permitted on Omicron III - the Atmosphere has high concentrations of Methane, which make it potentially explosively flammable, to a high degree. This Atmosphere is breathable. but smells bad.
These Bases here are engaged in Atmosphere Conversion.

These ORDERS are MANDATORY – and Heavy Penalties will be exacted from any Operator which does not Comply with these Requirements.

All Military Ships and Ships of the Space Commands of the Dominions and of PSC Phoenix Space Command are to take full part in this Evacuation Operation.

The Attican Scout Group is the only Force which is exempted from this requirement – as they are to provide outlying Scouting for the Omicron System.

The Second Attican Bombing Group is to deliver all of the cargoes of Food, originally intended for the Prisoners – to locations adajcent to the Bases on Omicron II.
It is then to collect as much of the Foodstuffs stored in the Food Stores on Orienta as possible ( discarding any which has been rendered radioactive ) – and deliver this to Omicron II.

The Attican Heavy Lift Ships are to lift and move ALL of the Prefabricated Units from the Twelve Landing Sites / Refugee Camps on Orienta – to locations adjacent to the Six Bases on Omicron II.

Once ALL Personnel have been evacuated – then, if possible all Military Materials and Survival Equipment is to be removed from the Refugee Camps, and moved to the new locations on Omicron II.

THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE EXTREMELY URGENT.
The Quicker we can all act – the more People will be saved from Death.
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Urgent Action - Addendum

Stardate – February 2138

From - The Departments of Defence and of The Interior of The Phoenix Confederation

A State Of Emergency is hereby Declared - Throughout the entire Confederation and Dominions.

ADDENDUM – Evacuation of Orienta

For the time being ALL Passenger Ships are to be Requisitioned – Compensation will be paid later for All Losses in Revenue, etc.
All Passenger Ships are hereby Ordered to Land at the nearest Colonised Planet – and there to Disembark ALL Passengers – regardless of Status, and with no Exceptions.
Arrangements may be made to transfer Passengers at a future time – perhaps a few days.
ALL Passenger Ships are to proceed to the Omicron System via designated “waypoints” – and to Land on the Planet Orienta ( Omicron III ) in designated Safe Landing Zones, the necessary Navigational Coordinates will be provided.
There, they are to undertake the immediate evacuation of ALL Civilian Personnel – who are estimated to number approximately 56 Million or so. These are all to be evacuated, before they succumb to the effects of radiation.

These People are to be “ferried” in as many trips as are necessary – to locations adjacent to the Six Bases which are Under Construction on the Planet Omicron II ( Xin Shijie ).
WARNING - No Naked Lights or Flames of any kind are permitted on Omicron III - the Atmosphere has high concentrations of Methane, which make it potentially explosively flammable, to a high degree. This Atmosphere is breathable, but smells bad.
These Bases here are engaged in Atmosphere Conversion.

These ORDERS are MANDATORY – and Heavy Penalties will be exacted from any Operator which does not Comply with these Requirements.

THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE EXTREMELY URGENT.
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Get Your Troops off-planet, and as many Civilians as you can possibly carry. I am assuming that you have some Transports available.
Let me know the current situation with your Troops, and Transports.
Otherwise - the Phoenix Assault Fleet is standing by - together with the Attican Battle Fleet, one of the Atrtican Bombing Forces, and other Units.

You can land People on the nearby Planet Omicron III ( Xin Shijie ).
This has a breathable but smelly Atmosphere - with a high Methane content.
Warning - do not light any flames there, the whole Atmosphere may ignite explosively. Then you would also have a problem with much too much CO2.

This Planet has SIX Massive new Bases under Construction here - with Construction Workers of the ACE Attican Construction Engineers working on them. Navigational Coordiantes are provided for these

Help will be on the way - Phoenix is Requisitioning EVERY Ship - to handle Evacuation. Evacuation will also be to the Planet Omicron III.
Yes, we'll get Infantry and civilians out alike. The troops can be used to organize the civilians, so they don't trample over each other trying to escape, but I'm not just leaving 144,000 troops (both Solean and Free Oriental) behind.

Now, with like 1 million enemy soldiers on the loose, I'm ramping up ground force development even more. Including the last recorded Oriental Regiment that was formed, there about 270,000 Naval Infantry. I want 1 million to be added ASAFP-Orientals and Soleans alike. It shouldn't be hard whatsoever to match the current number of Naval Infantry in total with just Orientals. After all, there's millions of them, and millions of them just got killed in an instant genocide. I would like to expand the military hardware producing industry more, to turn out more weapons, vehicles, M3As, etc.

We must use the Kogroth and Leeth to our advantage. Kogroth can be heavy troopers. Leeth can be close quarters/fast assault types.
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Yes, we'll get Infantry and civilians out alike. The troops can be used to organize the civilians, so they don't trample over each other trying to escape, but I'm not just leaving 144,000 troops (both Solean and Free Oriental) behind.

Now, with like 1 million enemy soldiers on the loose, I'm ramping up ground force development even more. Including the last recorded Oriental Regiment that was formed, there about 270,000 Naval Infantry. I want 1 million to be added ASAFP-Orientals and Soleans alike. It shouldn't be hard whatsoever to match the current number of Naval Infantry in total with just Orientals. After all, there's millions of them, and millions of them just got killed in an instant genocide. I would like to expand the military hardware producing industry more, to turn out more weapons, vehicles, M3As, etc.

We must use the Kogroth and Leeth to our advantage. Kogroth can be heavy troopers. Leeth can be close quarters/fast assault types.
All agreed - I will shorty be Quadrupling the Recruitment and Training for Attican Forces.

Phoenix will be Recruiting and Training some Ground Forces Regiments.
Also - some Leeth Close Quarters / Fast Assult, or Special Force Regiments.

The IPC will be providing Korgoth Heavy Assault Regiments, and Leeth Close Quarters / Fast Assault Regiments. Recruited and Trained.

There may also be some Rhynwyrr Special Forces Units - from Chalco Dominion.
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Wait really? This is too good to be true...
*sigh*

Just noticed that.

Anyways, how many Attican troops are there? As far as Phoenix having their own forces, yeah, some Phoenix Infantry or something like that would be good.
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Not a lot of Atticans on Orienta -

We took some of the Gunners and suchlike from Garrison Duty - to man Tanks, S.P. Artillery, and S.P. "A.A." Guns. This was an extemporised measure.

There are over 20 Billion Attican Citizens altogether - so we can raise A LOT as Ground Forces.

Currently there are -
16 Regiments of Infantry ( Guards ) - 48,000 Men - Training since October 2137.
11 Armoured Battalions ( Tanks ) - 10,000 Men - Training since October 2137.
11 Battalions of Self-Prop Artillery - 10,000 Men - Training since October 2137.
11 Battalion of Self-Prop "A.A." - 10,000 Men - Training since October 2137.

Training is expected to take 8 Months - so Completion in June 2138.

If we add another 3 times the current numbers -

64 Regiments of Infantry ( Guards ) - 192,000 Men.
44 Armoured Battalions ( Tanks ) - 40,000 Men.
44 Battalions of Self Prop Artillery - 40,000 Men.
44 Battalions of Self-Prop "A.A." - 40,000 Men.

Hmmm - not an awful lot - 312,000 Men.

We will have to work on this some more - as Estimates are that we COULD build these Forces up to 10 Million Men, in time.
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Yeah, but 312,000 + 270,000 (current number of Nav Inf) = 582,000. Of course, at the same time Attica's forces are growing, Solean forces could and would grow exponentially, mainly due to the certainly vengeful nature of the Orientals now.

Actually, Sol's forces, when you combine the Naval Infantry, NI Guards, and Guards = at least 480,000.

Still, the first short term goal (seriously, in the grand scheme of the population, it is small) I want is 1,000,000 Naval Infantry-like soldiers. This includes Sol, Attica, Orientals, Kogroth, and Leeth (Orientals can be in their Regiments, and Kogroth and Leeth should probably be spread out through Solean and Attican infantry units.

It should be a rather easy goal, as I've , there's TONS of Orientals who'd be GLAD to stand up for themselves. And the expansion of military production would facilitate the rapid expansion.
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I will look towards Doubling Attican Numbers - to 8 Times the curent figures.

This will give 624,000 for Attica alone.

We may be able to get up to about 2 Million or more in Total - about 12 Months for Fully Trained Units.
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So 1 million should take 6 months, aye? That be our first goal.
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Well, haven't posted in this thread for quite some time.

As COMGROF, this is what I plan on doing with the updated ground forces info Kris will eventually send (I already PMed this to him, but I'll try to summarize here):

Office of the Commander of Ground Forces, Phoenix Confederation

Regarding

Unit Designations - I want to number all Regiments, Naval Infantry Expeditionary Units, Divisions, and maybe Brigades and Battalions. With the wealth of time I'll have, this shouldn't take long at all. Assuming there are no delays of any sort.

I will first organize all existing/previous units, then organize planned/future units. These would include "non-humans" such as Kogroth who would likely make up separately organized "Storm" units based on their attack potential (the name sounds cool lol), but they'll still be numbered all the same as Naval Infantry, Naval Infantry Guards, and Guards.

At my strategic level, against the Zetans, I'd probably move around more Regimental Corps' and such (which are 2-3 Regiments, and more similar to a Corps strength)

Naval Infantry Guards - Speaking of which, NIGs (Nav Inf Guards) who were previously a largely separate branch from the regular Naval Infantry, may either be disbanded entirely, or exist only as attached and/or smaller organic units in larger Naval Infantry formations.

A main function for them could be Military Police and base security-they were originally meant also for being able to jump around a system to defend it, while the Naval Infantry was meant to jump around a system to attack, and Guards stayed on their own planets as home guard.
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Ground forces are vital in the real world and in sci fi. Crix Madine once said with the ground troops your fancy starships will simply rot.
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Actually, ground forces are almost irrelevant once you have starships that can move between planets and star systems. Warfare becomes the equivalent of a naval battle and ground forces nothing more than garrisons of isolated "islands" (planets) in the middle of a huge "ocean" (space).

Everything hinges on winning the naval battle in space. Winning the following "amphibious" assault is nothing.
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