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Those websites are great, Especially the one about US vehicles, but my guess is they won't always be online. If we made a PDF here with the forum members, it could be downloaded for years to come, and it would have been made by a community who knows a lot about ww2 AFVs.
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Those websites are great, Especially the one about US vehicles, but my guess is they won't always be online. If we made a PDF here with the forum members, it could be downloaded for years to come, and it would have been made by a community who knows a lot about ww2 AFVs.
DogDodger owns the US one. I doubt that would go down anytime soon .

Even if it did, I own all of Hunnicutts books concerning WW2 tanks, and can reproduce all his data here from H's fact sheets if necessary. I would not even have to be asked.

The British tank website by David Boyd is equally good with kit, perhaps slightly better. I happen to know he checks the British archives to check information. It's why he lists the AI0's top speed of 23.8mph, rather than the internets usual 16mph max. If I thought it was about to dimise, I would copy his details on armour layout, although these can also be found on the web.

German kit is more difficult, in the fact that so many models were produced, with different levels of armour and firepower, even for the same basic type.

Potentially, Soviet stuff should be the easiest, but details are not often correct, even by the best tank authors. The IS-2 turret was considered 160mm thick for many years, as an example.

The work has generally already been done for us. You just need to buy the right books.
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my idea is to make a pdf which incorporate every nation inside. one reference book (pdf) with the inputs of forum members. Imagine how this could become fun and handy for everyone. No need to open 15 different books to find data on tanks etc.
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my idea is to make a pdf which incorporate every nation inside. one reference book (pdf) with the inputs of forum members. Imagine how this could become fun and handy for everyone. No need to open 15 different books to find data on tanks etc.
So what you need is an annotated version of Chamberlain and Ellis's Tanks of the World 1915-45
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Forum readers were to create a ww2 book, free, on AFVs, that we could share among us ?

We could detail the stats of all AFVs once and for all and have an easy access to relevant data?
Sounds good, I think the obvious first move is a small committee to produce a basic outline so that the project has direction and structure.
I think a database would be better than a book format personally. If someone creates a cookie cutter shell/outline, then other can fill in statistics, narrative, etc.
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Sounds good, I think the obvious first move is a small committee to produce a basic outline so that the project has direction and structure.
I think a database would be better than a book format personally. If someone creates a cookie cutter shell/outline, then other can fill in statistics, narrative, etc.
i could build the shell, indexes, glossary, links etc.
But how do i make it accessible to members here so they can fill in the blanks?
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i could build the shell, indexes, glossary, links etc.
But how do i make it accessible to members here so they can fill in the blanks?
You would probably have to create a thread for each tank type and mark, eg PzIVA and PzIVG, because different marks of tank can be completely different beasts.

Perhaps using Dogdogers site as an example: http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/index.html
the template for each tank could be created, and updated, a bit like wiki.
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You would probably have to create a thread for each tank type and mark, eg PzIVA and PzIVG, because different marks of tank can be completely different beasts.

Perhaps using Dogdogers site as an example: http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/index.html
the template for each tank could be created, and updated, a bit like wiki.
i dont mind creating a thread on each AFV. I could then add the data to a pdf accessible to everyone here.

i could name the pdf Armored fighting vehicles of world war II.

i was thinking of adding an image ( http://tank-photographs.s3-website-e...com/index.html ) , a description (long or short) of the vehicle, when it saw its first fight, and of course the data itself.

we could start with the Tank destroyers maybe, one nation at a time?
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i dont mind creating a thread on each AFV. I could then add the data to a pdf accessible to everyone here.

i could name the pdf Armored fighting vehicles of world war II.

i was thinking of adding an image ( http://tank-photographs.s3-website-e...com/index.html ) , a description (long or short) of the vehicle, when it saw its first fight, and of course the data itself.

we could start with the Tank destroyers maybe, one nation at a time?
US TD details are here:
M10: http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/3ingmcm10.html
M18: http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/m18hellcat.html
M36: http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/90mmgmcm36.html
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i will start a M10,18,36 threat and see how it goes.
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