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American Age of Formative Expansion 1789-1830 To begin with the 1st US President & extend through the Whiskey Rebellion, Quasi War with France, War of 1812, & southeastern Indian wars,

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None that mattered.
John Hancock mattered for he was the one that commissioned Washington and presided over the signing of the Declaration however, as you imply, he was eclipsed by Washington.
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As someone posted on that thread, it was England at the time we got our Independence so, you are the only one who was offended and, I was not 'crying' - apparently that's what you are doing - I was treating the poster the same way he treated me. Further, for both your info, there is already a thread on this topic but I didn't see the genius above berating him for 'counting angels' or asking him what grade he was in. And, finally, ANYONE can yell to try and make their point more valid but in the end its pretty well shows they have "deep problems".
The declaration of Independence came in 1776 - England was absorbed into the UK in 1707 - you do the maths.
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The declaration of Independence came in 1776 - England was absorbed into the UK in 1707 - you do the maths.
Can he use his toes.
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The declaration of Independence came in 1776 - England was absorbed into the UK in 1707 - you do the maths.
Huh - well, gee, who rules the UK?

England. And, in fact, the United Kingdom's full name is the Kingdom of Great Britain so, are the Scots Brits, genius? British being synonymous with English (i.e. the Celtic people called Brits inhabited England and not Ireland or Scotland) - if you had of checked half pints toes you might have noticed that.

But anyways, if ya want to play semantics I can only guess its because you have nothing better to do with your time...

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Huh - well, gee, who rules the UK?

England. And, in fact, the United Kingdom's full name is the Kingdom of Great Britain so, are the Scots Brits, genius? British being synonymous with English (i.e. the Celtic people called Brits inhabited England and not Ireland or Scotland) - if you had of checked half pints toes you might have noticed that.

But anyways, if ya want to play semantics I can only guess its because you have nothing better to do with your time...
You really should stick to what you know, and not presume to pontificate about British history and politics.
It will news to everybody that the Celts confined themselves to England.

And again,why go out of your way to be rude ? I don't get it.
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Huh - well, gee, who rules the UK?
Nobody. The UK isn't "ruled". It is governed by a democratic system. "Ruling" as such effectively disappeared when the power to do so was taken away from the monarchy; a process that arguably had its earliest signs in the Magna Carta but IIRC, began in earnest in the days of King Charles and Oliver Cromwell. And back in Charlie and Ollie's time England was a stand-alone country (OK, with Wales as a principality IIRC but somebody may correct me on that).
But as Andrew correctly pointed out it hasn't been since the early 1700's when it came into union with Scotland.


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" ... And, in fact, the United Kingdom's full name is the Kingdom of Great Britain ... "
The UK's full name is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

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" ... so, are the Scots Brits, genius?"
Yes, the Scots are British. The Welsh are British also. Politically at least, the people of Northern Ireland are British too (although that has been a bone of considerable contention). The English are British too, of course. So the people to be correctly collectively described as "British" (even if some of them might prefer to be called something else) are the English, the Scots, the Welsh and the Northern Irish. In other words, the peoples of the United Kingdom.

The only major part of the British Isles that isn't "British" as such is the Republic of Ireland.


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" ... British being synonymous with English ... "
It is a very common misunderstanding, that "English" and "British" are synonymous and/or mean the same thing. That is totally incorrect, as explained above. It is however true to say that many folks use the terms as if they mean the same thing but when they do so, it is either based on ignorance, carelessness or erroneous habit.
Bottom line: Treating "English" and "British" as if they were the same thing is nevertheless 4-square, 24-carat, diamond-studded wrong!

This isn't a case of being fussy about "semantics" either.
It is no more correct to refer to all the British as "English" than it is to refer to all the Germans as "Prussians" or "Bavarians". England is part of Britain and part of the UK; NOT the whole darned thing.
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I guess it never occurred to you little owl that, since I posted this thread I am familiar with the topic and how many Presidents of Congress some people say we have had and what their names were. You also, apparently, missed the part about the President of Congress being a Legislative position and not an Executive position and, therefore, this country only had one President before Washington that ruled in the Executive Capacity.
These presidents under the article of Confederacy did excercize a little executive power, although much more limited than under the consitution, and the position was called "President". The Prime Minister is technically a member of the legislature too, but he still is an executive too. Washington was the first President under the modern US government "the Constitution", and the first one where the office of President was designated as a separate branch of government.:
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