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Old 12 Jun 16, 00:20
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Naval Sims: Got ot love surprises

Recently the group that I do naval simulations with have started a major naval war during the 1960’s era; you know that all famous “Cold War” stuff. So I decided I would do something different then I usually do last night, and that was to do some convoy interdiction work in the Atlantic, so I chose to use two Soviet submarines as my pieces for the action last night. The types chosen were a Whiskey V and a Romeo. I has these vessels on patrol off the Chesapeake Bay. I know I probably would have found more targets up around New York and so on, but I chose here because I thought the waters would be challenging for both sides of the “game”.

Well it was the Whiskey V that found the enemy convoy first, and I decided to make an attack while I was waiting for my Romeo to get into position. He had 40nm to close to the convoy, and this was in heavily patrolled water that was being guarded by P-2 and P-3 aircraft, as well as a few surface ships.

My passive sonar gave me positions on the convoy so, I came to periscope depth to get a quick radar fix, and then dived the boat to about 60 meters and started to work the distance and so on. I had six 53-51 pattern following torpedoes in my tubes ready to go. This weapon has a range 3nm, but can be fired using a Bearing Only Launch (BOL) attack, but I still needed to get within 2nm to hit anything. I was at the 3.5nm approximated, when I found I had two torpedoes entering the water near my boat. I had to break off the attack and make a run for it, but the two Mk 44 Mod 1 torpedoes found my boat while I was still outside the range to launch my weapons, I fired my decoys and ran deep and started to jig, but I couldn’t shake the torpedoes and the Whiskey V was gone, both torpedoes found the mark.

Well that said, when we talked over the actions with the Whiskey V, I found out that what attacked my boat was a US Coast Guard “Hamilton” class high endurance cutter. He actually picked me up on his passive sonar and he put his “DASH” into the air, and he dropped his fish on the bearing of the GOBLYN, He actually dropped just behind me at 4nm and the fish acquired me and the race was on. (Don’t full yourself, I know DASH was a troubled system, but if it was handled right it could kill you). Once he had me running he turned down the bearing was preparing for a “Hedgehog” attack using his Mk. 11’s. I found myself in a very bad way. He showed me on his papers where he picked me up on his SQS-36 sonar when I was about 6nm out. That dame DASH closed the distance fast and dropped on me.

It was a good exercise on making a surface attack and for the other guys ASW as well. I know people say it was a submarine that had the advantage in those days, but I personally believe that it was an even game. Both sides needed a lot of luck, and I didn’t have it last night.
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Ok I have found a new respect for the shallow water sailors. That damn Hamilton class cutter was designed to work law enforcement, search and rescue, and assistance at sea duties during piece time. I had never really given its wartime capabilities much thought, but ever since last night I have checked my references on this design. This thing from the start was meant to be an escort and it could do it well. These ships had an excellent sonar; the SQS-36 was a good solid-state sonar in the late 1960’s. It could perform all the tasks that you might expect the SQS-23 to do, but it was more compact, and with much less range. It was more akin to the SQS-11 sonar, but with twice the range at 6nm. Now mix that with the weapons systems carried for ASW the ship could be considered an excellent ship for handling escort. Her weapons for ASW included two Mk. 11 “Hedgehog” forward firing mortars (each firing 24 round salvos), 2 Mk. 32 triple ASW torpedo tubes (carrying MK 44 Mod 1 torpedoes at this time), and of course the ship had facilities to operate DASH (though only one). This put her nearly on par with some of the FRAM II destroyers. Her main gun was a 5 in/38 Mk 30 for use against surface and air targets.

All in all she was a decent ship for the operations she would have been asked to do.
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