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American Revolution 1763-1789 The birth of a new nation - to commence at the Proclaimation of 1763 to the end of the Articles of Confederation.

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British Leadership During the American Revolution

British Leadership During the American Revolution by Andrew Jackson O'Shaughnessy.

This was an outstanding discussion by several scholars on the subject of the British leadership during the war.



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As the British soldiers marched from the streets of Yorktown, Virginia on October 17, 1781, their heads hung and their colors remained cased. They marched toward the officers representing General George Washington’s Continental Army where their arms, and pride, was to be surrendered. Each soldier wondered how the increasingly victorious and mighty British Army could possibly be sent into ignoble defeat by their very own colonies. Since that day, scholars, military leaders, and historians have studied the victory of a relatively unprofessional army over their far superior foes. The latest installment in this 234 year debate is the center of a lecture and discussion led by Professor Andrew Jackson O’Shaughnessy in the 4th edition of the First Annual Discussions on Military History Roundtables at the U.S. Army Heritage and Education Center (USAHEC). Dr. O’Shaughnessy is joined by a panel including Dr. James Scudieri, Senior Historian at the USAHEC, and Dr. Gregory Urwin, Professor of History at Temple University.

The roundtable discussion centers on the arguments made by O’Shaughnessy in his latest book, The Men Who Lost America: British Leadership, the Revolutionary War and the Fate of the Empire. The book follows the careers and decisions of the primary leaders during the war, from King George III himself to the generals on the front line. How could the British, who captured every major American city throughout the war, lose to the colonial forces? O’Shaughnessy weaves a narrative of political turmoil in London undermining the war effort and the fearsome desperation of the American fighters to outline how each of the primary British actors in this martial saga failed to maintain the holdings of the British Empire.
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Had a long discussion on this with an American mate of mine. He hated George 3rd (peace be upon him) with a passion, and blamed him for all sorts of sins.

I have no idea what old George's views were on any subject, but I had to explain that the British Monarch is a toothless tiger when it comes to political or military decisions in Britain. It was Charles 1st who finally confirmed that it was PARLIAMENT that made policy and decisions ever since his demise.

Blame the pollies and the Generals and the Admirals.

(and that 3000 mile supply line!)

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British Leadership During the American Revolution by Andrew Jackson O'Shaughnessy.

This was an outstanding discussion by several scholars on the subject of the British leadership during the war.

Not one word of the larger French Army and Fleet that were involved in that triumph

I should say I meant in the text not the video.

The video and talk was interesting and informative though maybe they could have delegated a bit more time for questions than they actually did. Otherwise not bad.

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Had a long discussion on this with an American mate of mine. He hated George 3rd (peace be upon him) with a passion, and blamed him for all sorts of sins.

I have no idea what old George's views were on any subject, but I had to explain that the British Monarch is a toothless tiger when it comes to political or military decisions in Britain. It was Charles 1st who finally confirmed that it was PARLIAMENT that made policy and decisions ever since his demise.

Blame the pollies and the Generals and the Admirals.

(and that 3000 mile supply line!)

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British Leadership During the American Revolution by Andrew Jackson O'Shaughnessy.

This was an outstanding discussion by several scholars on the subject of the British leadership during the war.

Well, that's nice, but the British Crown stated that three of their commanding officers threw the war (Heironimus, Founding Fathers Secret Societies) and I have found that to be perfectly true and I know why they threw the war.

Here is a hint. According to Fereling (Almost a Miracle) Washington was "mesmerized" on taking back New York and would not budge on the subject for six months but as soon as Cornwallis sat on his arse at York Town, Washington ditched the suicidal idea of taking back New York and, instead, went and accepted Cornwallis' surrender at York Town.

Now, none of the experts can explain - or have even noticed as far as I can tell - why the two leading Generals in the conflict both settled on a place called York to end the revolution at.

Why?

If you can't answer that question then its time to go back to school...

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