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Chinese National Accused of Transporting USAF Program Information

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Hope this is of some interest:-

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A Chinese national has been arrested while carrying sensitive proprietary information on titanium used in a US Air Force program, most likely the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, according to the US attorney for the District of Connecticut.

Yu Long, a 36-year-old former resident of New Haven, was arrested on Nov. 7. The case had been sealed until Tuesday’s announcement. He has been charged with “transporting, transmitting and transferring in interstate or foreign commerce goods obtained by theft, conversion or fraud,” which carries a maximum sentence of 10 years in jail and a fine of up to $250,000.
http://www.defensenews.com/article/2...am-Information

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I hope he gets the max. Throw the book at him.
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This isn’t the first time specs on the JSF has been stolen, it’s just one of many security breaches. We are being told that no 'top-secret' classified information was in danger, all info taken by the cyber thieves are unclassified.


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Chinese cyber attack on Joint Strike Force program failed to unearth classified information, says US General Christopher Bogdan
February 23, 2015 10:00PM

THE head of the Pentagon’s $500 billion US Joint Strike Fighter program says attempts by Chinese cyber spies to steal classified information about the project had failed.

http://www.news.com.au/world/chinese...-1227236166105
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If those were unclassified, what's wrong then?
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If those were unclassified, what's wrong then?
Uh. Maybe criminal hacking of a supposedly secure Government or military contractor site to steal information. In other words espionage.
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Uh. Maybe criminal hacking of a supposedly secure Government or military contractor site to steal information. In other words espionage.
Where does it say hacking?
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Where does it say hacking?
Don't be dense.

"Cyber-attacks failed" and "attempts by Chinese cyber spies to steal"

In other words hacking. They were accessing government data illegally. The information they obtained may not have been classified but their actions were criminal.

In case you were referring to the original post regarding Long and not Persephone's post right before yours.....

The information was classified or at least controlled.

"Sensitive information" can exceed even Top Secret it is a term not specific to levels of classification.

His actual charges were "transporting, transmitting and transferring in interstate or foreign commerce goods obtained by theft, conversion or fraud,” which carries a maximum sentence of 10 years in jail and a fine of up to $250,000."

Long was caught on a layover while flying to China with these illegally obtained documents that were banned from export to China. (this case was not hacking he printed them after repeated warnings that they were protected from materials he had access to).
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Don't be dense.

"Cyber-attacks failed" and "attempts by Chinese cyber spies to steal"

In other words hacking. They were accessing government data illegally. The information they obtained may not have been classified but their actions were criminal.

In case you were referring to the original post regarding Long and not Persephone's post right before yours.....

The information was classified or at least controlled.

"Sensitive information" can exceed even Top Secret it is a term not specific to levels of classification.

His actual charges were "transporting, transmitting and transferring in interstate or foreign commerce goods obtained by theft, conversion or fraud,” which carries a maximum sentence of 10 years in jail and a fine of up to $250,000."

Long was caught on a layover while flying to China with these illegally obtained documents that were banned from export to China. (this case was not hacking he printed them after repeated warnings that they were protected from materials he had access to).
I'm not being dense, just wondering if there was something in the article I missed. Couldn't recall reading that he was charged with hacking, hence my question. No doubt he was caught doing something illegal.
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If those were unclassified, what's wrong then?
This was your first post.

This was right after Persephone's post #2 which was all about hacking and the only post about unclassified information being obtained. That case did not involve Long and had to be the one you were referring to.

Long's case clearly involved controlled documents and clearly involved illegal activities.

At least you now acknowledge the obvious...that Long was caught doing something illegal.
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This was your first post.

This was right after Persephone's post #2 which was all about hacking and the only post about unclassified information being obtained. That case did not involve Long and had to be the one you were referring to.

Long's case clearly involved controlled documents and clearly involved illegal activities.

At least you now acknowledge the obvious...that Long was caught doing something illegal.
He was. My question specifically was where it was mentioned he hacked, as I couldn't recall reading about hacking. My question in post 6 deals with how he came into possession of it, not that he wasn't guilty of espionage.

Anyway thanks for your clarifying the term "sensitive information". It had me confused a bit.
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