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American Age of Formative Expansion 1789-1830 To begin with the 1st US President & extend through the Whiskey Rebellion, Quasi War with France, War of 1812, & southeastern Indian wars,

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The U.S. Navy was a key ingredient to American victory in the 1814–15 New Orleans campaign, despite the naval station there being undermanned and underfunded.
At critical periods in the national defense of the United States, when the resources available for the armed forces are in desperately short supply, difficult decisions must be made as to the allocation of those resources. The War of 1812 provides an example of this process and the effects of the denial of resources to a naval station in what was, for most of the war, a minor theater of action. Despite the obvious vulnerability of the Gulf Coast to British attack, the naval and military forces at New Orleans were skeletal, starving for want of resources and reinforcements. For two years, the military front for the United States in its war with Great Britain was the border with Canada. For most of the war, until the autumn of 1814, the U.S. Navy’s principal actions took place in the North Atlantic and on Lakes Erie, Ontario, and Champlain. For these reasons, the Gulf Coast had been assigned a low priority in Navy ships, men, finance, and supply.
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Not sure how it was a key component. As British Naval control was absolute both before and after the battle. After the action at Lake Borgone
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Not sure how it was a key component. As British Naval control was absolute both before and after the battle. After the action at Lake Borgone
No, it wasn't. The British did not control the Mississippi River before or after Lake Borgne.

Commodore Patterson still commanded the USS Carolina and the USS Louisiana on the river and both were engaged against the British army during Jackson's night attack against the British encampment and gave effective fire support to that night attack.

Both ships remained engaged against the British army until the Carolina was destroyed by British hotshot ('red bullets') on the 27th and the Louisiana was pulled upriver by her crew.

The information is in the article...

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Excellent article. Dudley is an excellent naval historian. Thanks very much for posting it.

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Excellent article. Dudley is an excellent naval historian. Thanks very much for posting it.

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The Black Ball Line Packet Ship Cutter USCGC Monroe 1817 first of it's kind was very fast.
http://www.uscg.mil/history/webcutters/cutterlist.asp
Click on: MONROE (1817)
Sir George Simpson (Hudson's Bay Company) took one to New York on the way to Canada in beginning of his career in the HBC.
Packet Ships were probably quite handsome & fast back in the day!

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