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American Colonial Era 1660-1763 The growth of North American colonies, often with a change in native & national control.

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Besides, the Ulster Plantation were hardly pure Scots. My Ulster ancestors were mongrels: some of the Lowlanders were crossed up with Northern English Borderers and even some Hugenots got mixed in.
That seems to be the case with one of my mothers ancestral lines, the Brewers. They have been traced to what is modern Belgium, migrating pre 1700. Did not help much when they arrived here. "No Irish Wanted" was applied to them as well.
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There was little genetic difference between the Border families. They had been marrying back and forth over the line for hundreds of years. Some families like the Grahams lived on both sides! The Ulster Plantation actually started out wanting good English families but started recruiting anyone that would come after a while. They even accepted some Highland Scots..

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There was little genetic difference between the Border families. They had been marrying back and forth over the line for hundreds of years. Some families like the Grahams lived on both sides! The Ulster Plantation actually started out wanting good English families but started recruiting anyone that would come after a while. They even accepted some Highland Scots..

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Scottish if forced english at will and reiver by grace of blood.

There are lots of intresting books on the reivers.

Intresting to ask as there was more scottish immigration than ulster scots, what happened to the scottish community, most of it I suspect was absorbed by the ulster scots early community.?
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I would imagine most of the Scots melded in with the earlier Protestant settlers. I imagine they all looked the same to the Catholic Irish.

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There was little genetic difference between the Border families. They had been marrying back and forth over the line for hundreds of years. Some families like the Grahams lived on both sides! The Ulster Plantation actually started out wanting good English families but started recruiting anyone that would come after a while. They even accepted some Highland Scots..

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I would highly recommend David Hackett Fischer's "Albion's Seed". He considers the border families (both Scottish and British) and the Ulster Plantation immigrants to be of a single cultural stock based upon the north Irish Sea.
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I would highly recommend David Hackett Fischer's "Albion's Seed". He considers the border families (both Scottish and British) and the Ulster Plantation immigrants to be of a single cultural stock based upon the north Irish Sea.
I share the maiden name of Hillary Clinton,Roddham.
Her family went to Virginia in the 1700s I think ,they came from a town just down the road from me,you may have heard of it..Washington?
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My mother's maternal lineage is the Whitley's, who in 4 generations starting in approximately 1741 went from Ulster to Oregon. Along that journey they settled the Shenandoah Valley, then settled Kentucky building the first brick house west of the Alleghenies (and first circular racetrack), trapped and mapped the Rockies, named Yellowstone Lake and Jackson's Hole, took the first wagons through South Pass, and then turned these maps over to the government who used them as the starting point for John C. Fremont's explorations. If you find this interesting you might enjoy this thread.


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