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Saxon cuirassiers (Napoleonic Wars)

Saxon cuirassiers - one of the best cavalry Units of epoch...

Friedland (after their good performance at this battle, Konig Cuirassier regiment was awarded Guard status and become Leib Guard Cuirassier regiment)

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Borodino (their most famous battle... Garde du Corps and Zastrow regiments)
- The fight for Semenovskoye - they had broken two squares, defeated Sievers dragoons, but were, in their turn, beaten by Russian cuirassiers and hussar regiment (His Majesty Cuirassier, Her Majesty Cuirassier, Astrakhan Cuirassier regiments, Achtyrka Hussar regiment, perhaps, some more regiments);
- The fight for Grand redoubt - they had captured the redoubt after failed attack of Wathier cuirassiers led by Caulaincourt - great act of bravery (there is version of redoubt had been captured by French cuirassiers of Wathier, in any case - Saxon and French cuirassiers made great efforts for this success), than they charged square (part of them went through the formation), then they faced Russian dragoons, after retreat of dragoons, Saxons were charged by Russian elite Guard cavalry - Chevalier Guard and Leib Horse Guard regiments (Guard vs Guard!) and were defeated... They managed some attacks, but all were beaten off by Chevalier and Leib Horse Guards. In addition to it, Zastrow regiment was charged by mistake by French carabiniers... Latter had been retreated after failed fight against Russian cavalry and took Zastrow cuirassiers, in their white coats and black cuirasses, for Russians.

Dresden (Zastrow and Leib Cuirassier Garde regiments)
- Zastrow cuiassiers broken two Austrian squares, and took as prisoners all officers and privates and 2 colors (!).

Leipzig (Zastrow and Leib Cuirassier Garde regiments)
- 4 squadrons of Leib Cuirassier Garde regiment took part in a famous Bordesulle's attack, they captured Russian battery of 12 cannons and fought against Russian dragoons (perhaps, cuirassiers), that were trying to recapture it...

They are impressive, aren't they?


Borodino (but there is mistake here - Garde du Corps didn't faced Astakhan Cuirassier regiment front vs front - Garde du Corps (in disordered formation) was attacked to it's flank and rear and retreated to join Zastrow regiment)
(artist - Ezhov)


Dresden (artist - Telenik)

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What a beatiful plates Comte Ouvarov!
The first picture was initially posted in a book of Popov and Zemtsov "Borodino. Center" (the third part of the investigation, dedicated famous battle)... Unfortunately, I haven't heard of this books been translated into English.
http://eknigi.org/voennaja_istorija/...ino-centr.html
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Of all the Confederation of the Rhine troops, Saxon cavalry and Wurttemberg infantry were thought by many to be the best.

Bavarian artillery was also excellent, as were the Baden Hussars and the Hesse-Darmstadt Chevau-Legers.

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Of all the Confederation of the Rhine troops, Saxon cavalry and Wurttemberg infantry were thought by many to be the best.

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I think, Saxon heavies were one of the best overall... Too great exploits had been done by these cuirassiers... And they did it almost in every battle they took part! Friedland, Borodino, Dresden, Leipzig....
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Two plates of these impressive regiments, by Jack Girbal:
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Two plates of these impressive regiments, by Jack Girbal:
The plates are fine! Thank You very much! I saw them once in one of the military magazines, but I couldn't find them after that, because I didn't know the name of an artist.
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The plates are fine! Thank You very much! I saw them once in one of the military magazines, but I couldn't find them after that, because I didn't know the name of an artist.
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You´re welcome. They are from "Soldiers and uniforms of Napoleonic Wars", a book by Francois-Guy Hourtoulle. It contains about 100 colour plates by Jack Girbal and Patrice Courcelle.
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The officer of Garde du Corps (the regiment of Grande Armee, which possessed, probably, the best horses in the Campaign of 1812). (Sergey Letin's plate)

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Napoleon had some of the best cav of the 19th century, I'd say. I'm surprised no one mentions the Polish lancers at Somosierra.
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Napoleon had some of the best cav of the 19th century, I'd say. I'm surprised no one mentions the Polish lancers at Somosierra.
At Somosierra in 1808 they were the Polish Light Horse and were not armed with lances until 1809.

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At Somosierra in 1808 they were the Polish Light Horse and were not armed with lances until 1809.

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Ah, my mistake. Still, it was a brutal charge.
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It is always worth venturing into this area of the forum just to look at the pictures!

Was there ever an historical era so beautifully illustrated as the Napoleonic?
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It is always worth venturing into this area of the forum just to look at the pictures!

Was there ever an historical era so beautifully illustrated as the Napoleonic?
Surely - wasn't
Some examples of Napoleonic era
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ScotsGreys.jpg
http://hqwallpapers.org/wallpapers/l...x768_28847.jpg
http://images7.alphacoders.com/410/410101.jpg

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Ah, my mistake. Still, it was a brutal charge.
It was a brilliant charge and the Poles lost fifty percent of the squadron (3d) of the regiment and only one officer, Lt. Niegiluski, made it to the top of the pass and he was wounded. He also left an accurate memoir of the action which thoroughly negates de Segur's (who was also wounded in the action) version of events.

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