The Napoleonic Wars - Open Forum Thread

[Tsar]

Oh boy, sooner or later the French are going to mess up and roll a one while the Brits. roll a 6 (modified to 7) and the result will stagger them.

[The Exorcist]

Originally Posted by Tsar

Oh boy, sooner or later the French are going to mess up and roll a one while the Brits. roll a 6 (modified to 7) and the result will stagger them.

Well, after a day and a half of me saying one thing, my partner came on and said another... we agreed that my way was better and then suddenly the Purist goes offline.
I hope he got the countermand in time.

[The Purist]

Sorry Exo,... I was between home and office. So once I saw Ulrih's original message I pulled the trigger.

In any case, I sent the message about blood in the Channel at 1150h (-7 GMT) but got your post at 1202h.

Off to meetings now but I'll update everyone when I get on about 3 1/2 hours.

[The Purist]

In what appeared to be a one sided the Battkle the British IV and VI Hvy fleets intercepted and brought to battle the combined French and Dutch fleets raising hell in the Atlantic. Despite the lose of 80% the British line the French were brought up short with loss of four more ships (3 SotL).

It is said a fuming Nelson is charging forward from Plymouth and has pledged "Victory, or death!"

Total losses to date in the ongoing sea battles:

France - 2 SotL, 12 FF
Holland - 1 SotL, 5 FF
Great Britain - 12 SotL, 29 FF

Odds takers in Monaco are wondering at how much longer Adm Villeneuve can continue to beat the odds as fortunes are ruined and new fortunes made.

It is said ship builders in all three countries are rubbing their hands with glee at the prospect of new naval contracts.

[The Exorcist]

I don't know what they say in Monaco, but the experts at Las Vegas will telll you one hard and fast rule; never bet against a streak.
Right after they tell you not to bet anything you can't afford to loose.

[The Purist]

Napoleon scores a crushing victory against Archduke Charles at Vienna. The badly battered Austrian army withdraws toward Trieste and the only other army in field that Austria has.

What will be the Hapsburg Crown's next move???

Russian Land Phase

[Ulrih]

The sun of Austerlitz is rising!

[The Purist]

Indeed. The field battle was not too bad (but bad enough), the cavalry pursuit was crippling.

[Snowygerry]

Is there an operational map somewhere of the situation ?

[The Purist]

Of the Vienna region?

I could post one but all it would show is Napoleon's army (5 Corps) in Vienna, Charles (5 corps) to the south-west and a third, small Austrian army (2 corps) in Trieste. There are two additional French corps, one at Munich, the other at Venice. Two Russian corps (neutral) are also at Vienna.

The Russian, Turkish, Austrian, Prussian British and Spanish moves will be posted this evening.

[Snowygerry]

With that info I can pretty much make my own map - tnx.

Just trying to assess the situation on my north-west frontier -

Edit: The Russians were at Vienna but not involved in the battle ?

A meeting of emperors on a raft on the Donau perhaps

[The Exorcist]

With Vienna gone, isn't that it?
What will it take to get them to surrender?

[The Purist]

Historically the fall of Vienna did not bring the Austrians to terms nor did the fall of Berlin bring about the surrender of the Prussians in 1807 (or Russia or Spain).

Its hard to say what will bring a major power to surrender. The only way to *force* a surrender is to drive a country into the *Fiasco* zone with its capital occupied or to occupy all the capitals in the home country (like Prussia in 1807).

Once this turn is over and the map adjusts for the new conquests you may wish to re-jig your surrender terms. Some will be obsolete as territories fall to France.

[Ulrih]

Originally Posted by The Purist

Historically the fall of Vienna did not bring the Austrians to terms nor did the fall of Berlin bring about the surrender of the Prussians in 1807 (or Russia or Spain).

Its hard to say what will bring a major power to surrender. The only way to *force* a surrender is to drive a country into the *Fiasco* zone with its capital occupied or to occupy all the capitals in the home country (like Prussia in 1807).

Once this turn is over and the map adjusts for the new conquests you may wish to re-jig your surrender terms. Some will be obsolete as territories fall to France.

Well it depends which campaign you are refering to. If Danube campaign wich ended after battle of Wagram then you are correct.

[The Purist]

Austerlitz 1805 was fought after the Austro-Russian army retreated up towards Brunn and the French had walked into Vienna against no (or next to no) resistance.