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Unhappy Good Lord, what would cause a child to do such a thing!?

I was browsing for info on Ayanavaram when I came across this heart wrenching news clip.

http://m.thehindu.com/news/cities/ch...le4204168.ece/

We've heard of bullying suicides but what in heaven's name could drive a boy to attack his sister then burn himself to death when she runs off? That is just awful.
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I was browsing for info on Ayanavaram when I came across this heart wrenching news clip.

http://m.thehindu.com/news/cities/ch...le4204168.ece/

We've heard of bullying suicides but what in heaven's name could drive a boy to attack his sister then burn himself to death when she runs off? That is just awful.
Their religion demands it.

Oh, but religion does no harm. So never mind.
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Their religion demands it.

Oh, but religion does no harm. So never mind.
Last time I checked Hinduism doesn't require boys to commit ritual suicide when their sisters beat them up. Hinduism has some screwed up tenets, but that ain't one of them.

The parents are actually quite shocked.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiati...navaram-sister
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Last time I checked Hinduism doesn't require boys to commit ritual suicide when their sisters beat them up. Hinduism has some screwed up tenets, but that ain't one of them.

The parents are actually quite shocked.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiati...navaram-sister
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I find it hard to believe he was really aware what he was doing, what he'd feel and what would happen. Although at 11, he should!
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Stupid kid.
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I find it hard to believe he was really aware what he was doing, what he'd feel and what would happen. Although at 11, he should!
Indeed. I've heard at adolescence your brain's ability to process consequence was impaired but criminy that is a major malfunction. Poor kid. I can only pray the family can recover.
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"Give me a child until he is seven, and I will give you the man".

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Suttee is bad enough, eh?
With a tiny handful of exceptions, Suttee hasn't been practiced in well over a century. What the hell are you babbling about?
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This was just a temper tantrum taken to an extreme. It mght also be his fault he couldn't clean the thing himself.

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This was just a temper tantrum taken to an extreme. It mght also be his fault he couldn't clean the thing himself.

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I'm not sure "just" is the right word. Kid tantrums typically don't involve fire. When most boys get owned by their sisters they just stomp off or tattle.

I think either a chauvinistic household attitude that would inspire that kind of shame-a possibility considering he expected his sister to clean and was outraged when she didn't, or a neurological meltdown. Tragic either way.
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Not enough information to make any sort of informed judgement. Just another story published for its horror value.
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The kid was a couple of bricks short of a load.
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Their religion demands it.

Oh, but religion does no harm. So never mind.
You're absolutely right. The practice is sick. You might consider me an apologist for Christianity (and the Abrahamic religions) but not all religions. In fact the Old Testament is particularly critical of these kinds of sick practices:

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As a god worshipped by the Phoenicians and Canaanites, Moloch had associations with a particular kind of propitiatory child sacrifice by parents. Moloch figures in the Book of Deuteronomy and in the Book of Leviticus as a form of idolatry (Leviticus 18:21: "And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Moloch"). In the Hebrew Bible, Gehenna was a valley by Jerusalem, where apostate Israelites and followers of various Baalim and Caananite gods, including Moloch, sacrificed their children by fire (2 Chr. 28:3, 33:6; Jer. 7:31, 19:26).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moloch

However it is important to note that the practice of Sati didn't become a recognized practice until 400 AD during the Gupta dynasty (possibly the least Hindu Indian dynasty before the Moguls), so it was not originally a part of Hindu practice (and it still is not extremely popular).
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When dealing with suicide, particularly in a youth, it is often a mistake to tie the act to any action by the deceased in close proximity to the event.

The odds are very good the boy was hovering on the edge of the act for some time. Reading the (skimpy) article, I wonder if he did not cause his sister to flee the area of the house to ensure she was not hurt by the fire.
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