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View Poll Results: Where to go after Conn.?
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Guns-Clips, weapons, ammo, background checks
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Mental health-Improve a system that failed
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Nothing-The country is fine
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19 Dec 12, 12:01
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Real Name: Don
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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I fired guns with a so called 'banana clip' many times. In a battle setting, the more ammo you can fire, the better chance you have of defeating the enemy. I'm all for them in the military. However, I am not so sure the guy who lives across the street from me should have them.
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19 Dec 12, 12:02
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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Originally Posted by R. Evans
Have you pointed out the flaws in the rubber rifle yet? We're all waiting to see whether or not there are any.
C'mon, it shouldn't be difficult for a man of your obvious "expetise". 
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Bob.....earth calling Bob...come in Bob....
The flaw is in your logic and knowledge. Producing a picture of a rubber rifle to prove that the M-16A2 used "banana clips" has nothing to do with the discusion.
What's next, are you going to use a matchbox to talk about engine repair.. 
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19 Dec 12, 12:05
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Real Name: Bob Evans
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Salem, OH
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Nichols, Nichols, Nichols, you're worse than dealing with a small child. I've told you repeatedly that the term "banana clip" was slang. Slang.
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Definition of SLANG
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: language peculiar to a particular group
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Get it?
And if you are shooting the A2 in "3 round bursts" fast enough, it is just like "full-auto" on the A1s. Hence we said "full-auto". We had a blast emptying those banana clips. 
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19 Dec 12, 12:17
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Real Name: John "The HUMBLE"
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: APO AE 09131 Hqs EuCom
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Yoo, Bob doesn't dream about things he did not do. If he said he fired 30 round clips/mag I'll bet big that he did. Perhaps not with an A2 but then imo your splitting hairs still, l like between clips or mags.
In the Army the official term was magazine fed. In everyday use it could be either or. At the range it was lock and load one magazine.
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19 Dec 12, 12:20
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Real Name: John Rainey
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And it has nothing to do with the subject of the thread....jeeeze
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19 Dec 12, 12:25
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Originally Posted by R. Evans
Nichols, Nichols, Nichols, you're worse than dealing with a small child. I've told you repeatedly that the term "banana clip" was slang. Slang.
Get it?
And if you are shooting the A2 in "3 round bursts fast enough", it is just like "full-auto" on the A1s. We had a blast emptying those banana clips. 
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Poor, poor Bob.....refer to your post 5 when you supplied pictures of "clips". Then go to post 10 after Doc supplied pictures of 'clips' and you decided to go bananas on us by claiming the link between 'banana clips' and the M-16A2.
See how you dug yourself into a hole. You jumped into a question that I asked JBark by posting two pictures of guns with magazines inserted claiming those were clips. JBark corrected himself on his next post by calling them what they are: Magazines, he even increased the font and put it in bold.
You on the otherhand continued to make stuff up, posting a picture of a rubber rifle and an AR-15 as proof that they used "banana clips"
Now you are claiming that you were hip shooting your M-16A2 on full auto to expend ammo. Now you come up with this lovely statement:
And if you are shooting the A2 in "3 round bursts fast enough", it is just like "full-auto" on the A1s
Okay, we get it......now after I pointed out some additional facts, you admit that you were firing full auto...it was "3 round burst fast enough".
Is it "just like" the rubber rifle Bob?
Bob....you are coming up with some real classics.....
A Rubber Rifle and now...
Just like full-auto....   
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19 Dec 12, 12:38
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Originally Posted by Half Pint John
Yoo, Bob doesn't dream about things he did not do. If he said he fired 30 round clips/mag I'll bet big that he did. Perhaps not with an A2 but then imo your splitting hairs still, l like between clips or mags.
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Bob is running at the mouth, he jumped my question to JBark trying to teach me something of which he obviously has little experience with. He gave the wrong information and he continued to dig deeper and expose his lack of knowledge.
This is the problem when talking about gun control or the aftermath of a shooting. You have to split hairs, we are talking about guns not an eyeball adjustment to a squad on a parade deck.
If 30 round magazines need to be banned...call them what they are don't leave anything to doubt.
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Originally Posted by Half Pint John
In the Army the official term was magazine fed. In everyday use it could be either or. At the range it was lock and load one magazine.
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Yes, that is the official term in all services and technicla manuals on the service rifle. No mention of 'banana clips'
You insert the magazine into the magazine well
You don't insert the banana clip into the banana clip well.
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19 Dec 12, 12:43
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Originally Posted by Combat Engineer
And it has nothing to do with the subject of the thread....jeeeze
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In spirit, no, it doesn't. However it will be very important language in any sort of legislation, so I guess from that standpoint it's pretty relevant. (If it would, say, mention only clips and not mags that would be a huge loophole.)
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19 Dec 12, 12:46
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Real Name: John Rainey
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Saint Louis MO
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Originally Posted by llkinak
In spirit, no, it doesn't. However it will be very important language in any sort of legislation, so I guess from that standpoint it's pretty relevant. (If it would, say, mention only clips and not mags that would be a huge loophole.)
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Oh, I agree, one of the main problems with any legislation trying to ban or limit these. We saw the same thing with the previous ban and why it was not effective and why any new ban would also be ineffective.
However in discussion in this thread. Makes no difference unless one is trying to write up proposed legislation.
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19 Dec 12, 12:48
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Makes no difference unless one is trying to write up proposed legislation.
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Which is a horrible, tedious process that bites off chunks of oozing, ulcerated ass tissue.
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19 Dec 12, 13:01
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The administration does not necessarily need Congress and it has never been only about "assault rifles".
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...ique-m-rifles/
The transfer of such a large number of weapons -- 87,310 M1 Garands and 770,160 M1 Carbines -- could potentially be exploited by individuals seeking firearms for illicit purposes," the spokesman told FoxNews.com.
"We are working closely with our Korean allies and the U.S. Army in exploring alternative options to dispose of these firearms."
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...#ixzz2FWPygIeC
http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/08/ob...till-in-doubt/
Obama continues ban on importation of 600,000 historical, collectible M1 Carbine rifles; Fate of 86,000 Garands still in doubt
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/08/ob...#ixzz2FWQJA6Bu
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...es-from-korea/
The sad part of the story: the 770,000 M1 Carbines also available for sale in Korea are still banned due to their ability to accept “high capacity detachable magazines.” Which is ridiculous; the CMP has been selling those exact same guns and magazines for decades and shipping them directly to U.S. Citizens without an FFL in between. Not even 922(r) should apply. The guns were made in the United States in the first place.
Such is the state of gun laws in the United States. At least we’ll soon see some cheap (well used) M1 Garand rifles on the market. I hope.
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19 Dec 12, 13:03
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Real Name: Marc
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Which is a horrible, tedious process that bites off chunks of oozing, ulcerated ass tissue.
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Lance, you really should stop hanging around those types of establishments.
Rimshot
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19 Dec 12, 13:18
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Here, there.
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Originally Posted by slick_miester
Lance, you really should stop hanging around those types of establishments.
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I know, I just can't help myself. Usually a guy winds up paying double for that sort of action.
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19 Dec 12, 13:21
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Join Date: May 2011
Location: In hell. Talking to SATAN.
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Next year I see a ban on magazines, all semiautomatic weapons going through the Senate. Now The USHouse is different The Republicans and tea Party have 234 members. They will block any bill that calls for a ban. They have 17 extra members to stop it going through.
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19 Dec 12, 13:21
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Real Name: Marc
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Brooklyn
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I know, I just can't help myself. Usually a guy winds up paying double for that sort of action.
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Is that with or without . . . .
On second thought, I really don't want to know.
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