Is WWIII in 1946 a Sound Theory?

[hairog]

Originally Posted by Nick the Noodle

No you haven't.

Also, I've already posted the information on Soviet use of Enigma in the other thread. You know this because I then added a story that alerted the Soviets to this piece of info, which you thanked me for .

What I thanked you for was positive post that added to the story.

The first time I went to your source I could not find any mention of the Soviets and Enigma and quite frankly forgot about it figuring that you had just made a mistake which we all do. Now that you've mentioned it a second time it's a different matter.

I just went back now and re-read it 3 times and still there is no reference. I am the world's worst proof reader. Perhaps you could direct me to the paragraph, page... something that could aid me.

[hairog]

Originally Posted by Nick the Noodle

I had never noticed that !

Because it's not true.

[T. A. Gardner]

Stalling won't save you:

List your sources.

[hairog]

Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner

While not directed (this time) at me, this is typical of Hairog's responses to reasonable criticism. He dismisses it with a 'wave of the hand' and then gives zero proof or sourcing. The other typical response here is his making and argument from authority. That is, he claims expert knowledge with next to zero proof then turns around and demands his critic provide a lengthy academic proof of their own that the opposing position is correct.

Even if his critic does this Hairog will simply tell us that the sources, response, whatever, is inadequite, doesn't prove what the critic claims, or he will cherry pick the sources given for crumbs that taken out of context will support his position.

Why don't you help NN? You have endorsed his statement. Now how about helping him out with your sources.

[hairog]

Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner

Stalling won't save you:

List your sources.

Save me from what?

[T. A. Gardner]

Originally Posted by hairog

Why don't you help NN? You have endorsed his statement. Now how about helping him out with your sources.

NN? Who is NN?

[hairog]

Nick the Noodle.

[T. A. Gardner]

Originally Posted by hairog

Nick the Noodle.

Ah....

[TacCovert4]

Originally Posted by hairog

Why don't you help NN? You have endorsed his statement. Now how about helping him out with your sources.

Sources?

This coming from the man (is it man? Or woman? or Child? or Man-Child? I digress with the internal monologue) that has consistently insisted upon having a glut of source materials and 'expert' opinions on the subject, yet has been equally consistent in refusing to show them?

"If you're too much of a P to show your sources, don't demand them from anybody else. Especially if they asked you long before you started asking them."

Show us the Proof Hairog!

Show us the Proof!

Wait, he can't he doesn't have any!

Argh....internal monologue again.

[hairog]

Originally Posted by TacCovert4

Sources?

This coming from the man (is it man? Or woman? or Child? or Man-Child? I digress with the internal monologue) that has consistently insisted upon having a glut of source materials and 'expert' opinions on the subject, yet has been equally consistent in refusing to show them?

"If you're too much of a P to show your sources, don't demand them from anybody else. Especially if they asked you long before you started asking them."

Show us the Proof Hairog!

Show us the Proof!

Wait, he can't he doesn't have any!

Argh....internal monologue again.

Nice tirade filled with nothing factual.

I'm not demanding anything. I'm just trying to help Nick the Noodle. I'm sure he wants to show me. I'll be happy to take any resource at all. I've truly never heard of such a thing. Why all the hub bub.

Help him out. Be a pal. I'm sure he'd help you out as would I.

I very rarely ask for the kind of unreasonable, time wasting, demands that you seem to be consumed with. If NN has a resource then fine. I may be able to use it like he suggested for a double agent type scenario.

Why won't anyone help on this one? I thought you were all here for constructive criticism and to make this story better. Am I mistaken in you motives? Surely that is why most of you continue to post here.

What other reason could there be?

TacCovert4 Quote:

Then your facts are Lies. You are the one claiming them to be Fact, not fiction. Therefore you obviously got them from somewhere besides your own head. However, you incessantly avoid the question by making statements like the above. I thought I had made it very simple. In classic hairog fashion I just called you a liar and I demand you prove that your facts are in fact not lies. I just called Every Single Last One of your facts, barring obvious things such as the existance of WWII level kit in the Soviet armed forces, to be blatant falsehoods.

Now prove me wrong.

Edit:

However, after taking a shower and getting ready for the gym it occurs to me that I'm being too hard on you. After all, it is a work of Fiction, is it not? And as such it is quite enjoyable. After all, I'm a big fan of the sci-fi genre, which has at its core a suspension of reality. And so, I shall enjoy reading your story from within the point of view of the sci-fi genre. I guess you can take this as your apology for my incessantly demanding sources. After all, those are only needed for a 'counterfactual', and this is 'fiction'....which is a big difference, since a counterfactual is a cogent argument that something really could have happened that way by making a small change.

I thought you were were over this BS.

[The Exorcist]

Originally Posted by hairog

I thought you were were over this BS.

How is anyone going to get "over" your BS when you vomit it forth in endless waves?

Measure up to your own standards or its all for nothing.

[hairog]

Originally Posted by Exorcist

How is anyone going to get "over" your BS when you vomit it forth in endless waves?

Measure up to your own standards or its all for nothing.

For you it's nothing.

[T. A. Gardner]

However, after taking a shower and getting ready for the gym it occurs to me that I'm being too hard on you. After all, it is a work of Fiction, is it not? And as such it is quite enjoyable. After all, I'm a big fan of the sci-fi genre, which has at its core a suspension of reality. And so, I shall enjoy reading your story from within the point of view of the sci-fi genre. I guess you can take this as your apology for my incessantly demanding sources. After all, those are only needed for a 'counterfactual', and this is 'fiction'....which is a big difference, since a counterfactual is a cogent argument that something really could have happened that way by making a small change.

You are quite right Tac... I have been taking this the wrong way too. It really is on the level of those Harry Turtledove stories like Geronimo being a fighter pilot flying a biplane or the Confederates getting AK 47's.

I'll start just taking it as a pure work of fiction that it is. No need to explain anything... Everything works by PFM (Pure F**ing Magic). That will be a lot less stressful.....

[TacCovert4]

Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner

You are quite right Tac... I have been taking this the wrong way too. It really is on the level of those Harry Turtledove stories like Geronimo being a fighter pilot flying a biplane or the Confederates getting AK 47's.

I'll start just taking it as a pure work of fiction that it is. No need to explain anything... Everything works by PFM (Pure F**ing Magic). That will be a lot less stressful.....

You know what, we completely forgot about the Confederates. If they got, and were manufacturing their own, AK47s by 1865, then in 1946 their standard infantry weapon could very well be a pulse laser in the 40 watt range. I certainly don't want to think about what a 100 year jump in weapons tech would do for their artillery, or ships. Or aircraft.....the Libertarian-run CSA might have F-35s by 1946.....kind of sweeps all the Soviet advantages right away, doesn't it?

(Once you open the bottle of PFM........ )

[Full Monty]

Originally Posted by hairog

I very rarely ask for the kind of unreasonable, time wasting, demands that you seem to be consumed with. If NN has a resource then fine. I may be able to use it like he suggested for a double agent type scenario.

As I'm sure you're aware the Soviet designed 'Fialka' (violet) machines that were designed at the back-end of the 50s were a major upgrade on the old Engima-type encrypters. Prior to that it's unclear as to what the Soviets were using. The early M-series encrypters were inferior to the Enigma machines so it's possible that Soviet Intelligence used Enigma. However, whatever they used it seems probable that Bletchley Park would be able to read messages sent pretty easily.

p.s. I asked about the capability you claimed for Soviet air strikes on airfields in The Midlands and North of Britain. I appreciate you may have missed it given the furore over code-breaking and sources but I would still like you to give me a firm answer .... or direct me to the post where you've previously addressed this issue.