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24 Apr 12, 10:00
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Attention Yamato fans. Amazing (CGI) video of Yamato at Leyte Gulf.
Hello all. There's this Japanese video of Yamato at Leyte Gulf. Its all CG and very well done..it shows what Yamato did during that battle. Hopefully, many will see it and will put the idea that Yamato did nothing to rest.
Yamato actually shot very well during the battle.. and possibly holds the record for the longest hit of all time, when one of her shells exploded under the hull of the U.S CVE White Plains damaging it enough to put it out of battle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZEOO...sZgJWdtfNnqJY=
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24 Apr 12, 12:33
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"Obsolete" battleships attacking their usurpers - aircraft carriers. Looks symbolic. By the way, can you tell me the distance of the shot at CVE White Plains?
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24 Apr 12, 18:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Navyfieldguy
Hello all. There's this Japanese video of Yamato at Leyte Gulf. Its all CG and very well done..it shows what Yamato did during that battle. Hopefully, many will see it and will put the idea that Yamato did nothing to rest.
Yamato actually shot very well during the battle.. and possibly holds the record for the longest hit of all time, when one of her shells exploded under the hull of the U.S CVE White Plains damaging it enough to put it out of battle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZEOO...sZgJWdtfNnqJY=
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Cool little video, however the USS White Plains due its position in the formation (being farthest away from Kurita's force) was not hit by naval gunfire during this battle. Her damage came during the kamikaze phase of the battle and was minor in nature as a shot down plane hit close to the ship showering it with debris causing only minor damage and minor casualties. The ship that the Yamato was hitting was a sister ship the USS Gambier Bay with the hits being confirmed by Yamato's F1M2 spotter plane.
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24 Apr 12, 19:59
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Nice video! CGI keeps getting better by the day! Thanks for sharing!. 
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24 Apr 12, 20:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Navyfieldguy
Hello all. There's this Japanese video of Yamato at Leyte Gulf. Its all CG and very well done..it shows what Yamato did during that battle. Hopefully, many will see it and will put the idea that Yamato did nothing to rest.
Yamato actually shot very well during the battle.. and possibly holds the record for the longest hit of all time, when one of her shells exploded under the hull of the U.S CVE White Plains damaging it enough to put it out of battle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZEOO...sZgJWdtfNnqJY=
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Nice animation, but not video of the Yamato.
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Dennis
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24 Apr 12, 21:56
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Interesting bit of amature video, they even show the guns being lowered for reloading.
Nice work catching that just as it is posted to YouTube!
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30 Apr 12, 12:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cst784
Cool little video, however the USS White Plains due its position in the formation (being farthest away from Kurita's force) was not hit by naval gunfire during this battle. Her damage came during the kamikaze phase of the battle and was minor in nature as a shot down plane hit close to the ship showering it with debris causing only minor damage and minor casualties. The ship that the Yamato was hitting was a sister ship the USS Gambier Bay with the hits being confirmed by Yamato's F1M2 spotter plane.
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Thanks for the reply. Yes, Yamato fired and hit Gambier Bay but that came later. There is actual video recordings of White plains under fire from Yamato ( although I've never seen it ) Yamato was the only ship capable of a six gun salvo from its forward guns. There are still photos from that historic video on the Yamato/Musahsi picture website. The CGI video in the link was actually posted by the owner of that website. Cheers,Navyfieldguy.
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30 Apr 12, 12:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cst784
Cool little video, however the USS White Plains due its position in the formation (being farthest away from Kurita's force) was not hit by naval gunfire during this battle. Her damage came during the kamikaze phase of the battle and was minor in nature as a shot down plane hit close to the ship showering it with debris causing only minor damage and minor casualties. The ship that the Yamato was hitting was a sister ship the USS Gambier Bay with the hits being confirmed by Yamato's F1M2 spotter plane.
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I've decided to add a few pictures from that video. Since this was at the start of the battle, Japanese tradition was the flag ship always opens fire first and Yamato was the flag ship. White plains records also show they came under fire at the start of the battle. Remember Yamato was the only ship capable of firing a six shell salvo.. so there is no doubt these are Yamato's splashes.
http://usswhiteplains-vc4.org/TS1.pdf
Go to page 8 for the info.
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30 Apr 12, 13:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dmf01
"Obsolete" battleships attacking their usurpers - aircraft carriers. Looks symbolic. By the way, can you tell me the distance of the shot at CVE White Plains?
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Thanks for your reply. White Plains was approximately 34,000 yards away when Yamato opened fire.
Cheers,Navyfieldguy.
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30 Apr 12, 15:58
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I am not denying that the USS White Plains was under fire during this battle. You're initial post states that the she was hit by Yamato during the battle.
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Originally Posted by Navyfieldguy
...Yamato actually shot very well during the battle.. and possibly holds the record for the longest hit of all time, when one of her shells exploded under the hull of the U.S CVE White Plains damaging it enough to put it out of battle.
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The USS White Plains action report from Battle of Samar states...
"The results may indicate that the Jap surface gunnery is not very good as all 13 of our ships involved should have been sunk by the number of projectiles thrown at them. This ship was not hit but it received so many straddles that by the laws of chance it should have been hit several times. One...salvo...14-inch...was almost the gunners' delight with four close overs and two close shorts...the laws of probability and chance were not operating in favor of the Japs that day. The shooting was good but the percentage of hits was very low, at least on this ship. No accurate estimate of total number of rounds fired can be given but photographs taken from this ship show about 180 splashes..." (emphasis mine)
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30 Apr 12, 16:28
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Originally Posted by cst784
I am not denying that the USS White Plains was under fire during this battle. You're initial post states that the she was hit by Yamato during the battle.
The USS White Plains action report from Battle of Samar states...
"The results may indicate that the Jap surface gunnery is not very good as all 13 of our ships involved should have been sunk by the number of projectiles thrown at them. This ship was not hit but it received so many straddles that by the laws of chance it should have been hit several times. One...salvo...14-inch...was almost the gunners' delight with four close overs and two close shorts...the laws of probability and chance were not operating in favor of the Japs that day. The shooting was good but the percentage of hits was very low, at least on this ship. No accurate estimate of total number of rounds fired can be given but photographs taken from this ship show about 180 splashes..." (emphasis mine)
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Looks like near miss(es). Are there any evidences of direct hit(s) at 34,000 yd distance?
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30 Apr 12, 16:58
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Given that the CVEs were there to support the landings in the Philippines, were they also carrying torpedoes among their ordnance?
Nice clip btw.
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30 Apr 12, 21:02
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Originally Posted by Navyfieldguy
Thanks for your reply. White Plains was approximately 34,000 yards away when Yamato opened fire.
Cheers,Navyfieldguy.
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To make that easier for me to imagine,I figure a little over 19 miles, WOW!! Excuse me you Navy guys, I was just a common or garden infantry 'Bootneck'.  lcm1
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01 May 12, 02:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Navyfieldguy
Hello all. There's this Japanese video of Yamato at Leyte Gulf. Its all CG and very well done..it shows what Yamato did during that battle. Hopefully, many will see it and will put the idea that Yamato did nothing to rest.
Yamato actually shot very well during the battle.. and possibly holds the record for the longest hit of all time, when one of her shells exploded under the hull of the U.S CVE White Plains damaging it enough to put it out of battle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZEOO...sZgJWdtfNnqJY=
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I have built a number of WW2 warships in recent times, British,American and Japanese, all of them to the same scale,1/350 and what impressed me about the Yamato was the size! I know that does not mean it was better because of its size but it dwarfed many of the other well known ships of that time the only one that came anywhere near it (up till now) was HMS Hood. Perhaps one of the members can tell me something relating to the Yamato,in the kit was no life saving facilities such as lifeboats as is in all the other models, was that the case or were they tucked away somewhere? lcm1............My mistake, there are TWO small ones tucked away down in the stern by the cranes. (They were for the officers I suppose!  )
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01 May 12, 12:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cst784
I am not denying that the USS White Plains was under fire during this battle. You're initial post states that the she was hit by Yamato during the battle.
The USS White Plains action report from Battle of Samar states...
"The results may indicate that the Jap surface gunnery is not very good as all 13 of our ships involved should have been sunk by the number of projectiles thrown at them. This ship was not hit but it received so many straddles that by the laws of chance it should have been hit several times. One...salvo...14-inch...was almost the gunners' delight with four close overs and two close shorts...the laws of probability and chance were not operating in favor of the Japs that day. The shooting was good but the percentage of hits was very low, at least on this ship. No accurate estimate of total number of rounds fired can be given but photographs taken from this ship show about 180 splashes..." (emphasis mine)
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I suggest everybody read this fourm:
http://warships1discussionboards.yuk...4#.T6AHMdW8WSp
The posts made by rlundgren are incredibly interesting. A very good read from a seemingly knowledgeable man.
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