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Gen. Gordon's flanking move at the Wilderness.

It is Eric's fault!! I haven't got to Todd's Tavern yet BECAUSE, I started out at the flanking proposition put fourth by General Gordon.

Who is one to believe caused that fiasco?

Now it was a brilliant move and the plan was in place for approval during early morning hours after all the scouting had been done and showed it was a correct move.

But no one would give the approval.

Early and Ewell did the same here as they did in Gettysburg. Argue all day while time slipped away for a good extended attack!!

General Lee even said afterward it was a lost importunity. He should have fired those 2 a long time ago in my opinion!!

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Regardless of whether he was wrong here, Early rendered excellent service to Lee as a corps commander.
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Gordon really pumped up the importance and potential of his flanking movement in his autobiography. This influenced a lot of early history on the subject and made Gordon out to be a brilliant tactician, held down by the likes of Ewell and Early.

You should read Peter S. Carmichael's "Escaping the Shadow of Gettysburg: Richard S. Ewell and Ambrose Powell Hill at the Wilderness" to get a different look at the flanking attack, among other interesting subjects. It is included in Gary Gallagher's Wilderness Campaign entry in his Battles and Campaigns of the Civil War series.
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Regardless of whether he was wrong here, Early rendered excellent service to Lee as a corps commander.
I guess you are right. He did scare -ell out of Lincoln!
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Gordon really pumped up the importance and potential of his flanking movement in his autobiography. This influenced a lot of early history on the subject and made Gordon out to be a brilliant tactician, held down by the likes of Ewell and Early.

You should read Peter S. Carmichael's "Escaping the Shadow of Gettysburg: Richard S. Ewell and Ambrose Powell Hill at the Wilderness" to get a different look at the flanking attack, among other interesting subjects. It is included in Gary Gallagher's Wilderness Campaign entry in his Battles and Campaigns of the Civil War series.
Carmichael's article is a good evaluation of that entire episode. In fact, Ewell's performance as a whole was not that bad in the Wilderness (Certainly better than generally assumed).
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It is Eric's fault!! I haven't got to Todd's Tavern yet BECAUSE, I started out at the flanking proposition put fourth by General Gordon.

Who is one to believe caused that fiasco?

Now it was a brilliant move and the plan was in place for approval during early morning hours after all the scouting had been done and showed it was a correct move.

But no one would give the approval.

Early and Ewell did the same here as they did in Gettysburg. Argue all day while time slipped away for a good extended attack!!

General Lee even said afterward it was a lost importunity. He should have fired those 2 a long time ago in my opinion!!

Marshall

PS: My G-Grand fought there in Pegrams division.
Marshall,

Your point about Ewell at Gettysburg is nonsense.
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Carmichael's article is a good evaluation of that entire episode. In fact, Ewell's performance as a whole was not that bad in the Wilderness (Certainly better than generally assumed).
Gordon Rhea has a good coverage also.
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Gordon Rhea has a good coverage also.
No doubt, Rhea is an acknowldeged expert on the Overland Campaign.
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Looking forward to following this thread. I am about to read Gordons book as soon as I finish the one I am on.
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Marshall,

Your point about Ewell at Gettysburg is nonsense.
Will you be so kind as to explain your statement a little more on the Ewell thread? Thanks.

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