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| The Middle East Asia Minor, the Arab Mahgreb, and the Persian Gulf to include tensions between Israel and its Arab neighbors, Terrorist organizations and Iran. |
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11 Apr 12, 14:05
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Iran uncovers Israel-linked 'major terrorist group'
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Iran uncovers Israel-linked 'major terrorist group'
The Iranian intelligence ministry has identified a "major terrorist group" linked to Israel and arrested some of its members, state media report.
Bombs, machine-guns and military communications equipment were reportedly seized in operations in Iran's "border and central provinces".
The arrests came after months of complex operations, the ministry said.
In January, Iran accused Israel and the US of the drive-by bombing that killed a nuclear scientist in Tehran.
Israel has not denied any role in the killing of Mostafa Ahmadi-Roshan, the deputy director of the Natanz uranium enrichment plant.
The assassination of the fifth Iranian scientist since 2007 came against a backdrop of growing pressure on Iran over its nuclear programme.
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BBC - Full Article
Having the Iranians getting indignant about a "terrorist group" is always worth a laugh.
"We've supported groups that have killed thousands, but we are shocked and disgusted to find a group within our borders that might have killed half a dozen scientists!"
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11 Apr 12, 15:18
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Iran may have no cause for complaint on account of her own behaviour, but terrorism is what it is, kids.
If this story is true, then it might be a setback for the Israeli campaign.
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11 Apr 12, 15:32
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Originally Posted by Glenn239
Iran may have no cause for complaint on account of her own behaviour, but terrorism is what it is, kids.
If this story is true, then it might be a setback for the Israeli campaign.
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Iran also blamed Israel in supporting rebels in Syria.
If this story is true, then it might be a setback for the Syrian revolution.
Some Egyptian officials blamed Israel ( and USA ) in igniting riots.
If this story is true, then it might be a setback for the Egyptian democracy.
I personally re-posted here from Al Arabia the picture of
Quadafi with the Stars of David all over.
If that story is true, I simply don't know what to do 
Oh, by the way , the picture of Assad inside of the Star of David also.
Is he a Zionist too ?
Horror !!
Horror !!!
Horror !!!!
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One more story to collection of
Iranian Zionists Horrors :
http://forward.com/articles/108165/i...on-zionist-me/
Iran's Supreme Leader Blames Protests on 'Zionist' Media
By JTA
Published June 19, 2009.
Jerusalem — Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei
denied that the country’s recent elections were fixed, called
on protesters to stop and blamed the “Zionist” media.
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Khamenei blamed the “media belonging to Zionists, evil media” for fomenting the demonstrations.
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11 Apr 12, 16:15
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Originally Posted by Daemon of Decay
BBC - Full Article
Having the Iranians getting indignant about a "terrorist group" is always worth a laugh.
"We've supported groups that have killed thousands, but we are shocked and disgusted to find a group within our borders that might have killed half a dozen scientists!"
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I would not believe the mullahs in Tehran if they told me that the sky was blue.
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11 Apr 12, 16:21
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Originally Posted by Bass_Man86
I would not believe the mullahs in Tehran if they told me that the sky was blue.
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For the some strange reasons, I suspect, that any opposition
group arrested by Iranians is going to be blamed in working
on, or supported by USA , or Israel. 
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12 Apr 12, 01:51
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Originally Posted by Daemon of Decay
BBC - Full Article
Having the Iranians getting indignant about a "terrorist group" is always worth a laugh.
"We've supported groups that have killed thousands, but we are shocked and disgusted to find a group within our borders that might have killed half a dozen scientists!"
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So, since they support a terrorist group, they cannot get angry about another terrorist group? Does this standard apply to other countries, or just Iran?
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12 Apr 12, 03:37
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Israel blame Iran, Iran blame Israel. How sweet.
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12 Apr 12, 12:35
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Believe Iranian press? Please... Just as much as I believed Pravada when I was in elementary school.
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12 Apr 12, 12:57
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So, since they support a terrorist group, they cannot get angry about another terrorist group? Does this standard apply to other countries, or just Iran?
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No, the double-standard applies to all countries including Iran.
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12 Apr 12, 19:57
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Originally Posted by Glenn239
Iran may have no cause for complaint on account of her own behaviour, but terrorism is what it is, kids.
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Killing scientists working on a WMD program for a tyrannical Theocracy is terrorism? 
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13 Apr 12, 03:50
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Originally Posted by Destroyer25
Killing scientists working on a WMD program for a tyrannical Theocracy is terrorism? 
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Yes it is. They are basically assasinating civilians. Also, isn't this terrorist group Marxist? Kind of ironical that USA and Israel are now supporting a communist terrorist organisation, considering that the current situation in Iran is partly caused by the fact that they previously supported the Shah against the communists.
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13 Apr 12, 03:58
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Nah, Karri, it's assassination, not terrorism because there is no such specific intent or tactical/strategic goal of the group or individuals involved to Terrorize the population of the nation for which they work.
Is it any less/more illegal or moral - No.
But it is specifically what it is.
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13 Apr 12, 04:53
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Originally Posted by Admiral
Nah, Karri, it's assassination, not terrorism because there is no such specific intent or tactical/strategic goal of the group or individuals involved to Terrorize the population of the nation for which they work.
Is it any less/more illegal or moral - No.
But it is specifically what it is.
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At what point does assasination then stop being terror? If Al Qaeda would assasinate the president of USA would you not call that terrorism? Assasination, AFAIK, is just a word for sudden/secret attack. In such regard you could impy that 9/11 was not terrorism.
And clearly there is a goal: to stop Iran's nuclear program by killing civilians working on it.
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13 Apr 12, 04:58
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Yes, because the specific intent would be to Terrorize an entire nation, not eliminate his expertise at weapons development.
The scientists were not targeted because they were known by much of anybody in any sort of scale such as to specifically terrorize an entire nation or large group.
The perpetrators would have been MORE than Happy if the Iranians had kept it all secret from their own people.
911 was carried out specifically & exactly such as that its Strategic & Tactical Goal was nothing at all BUT To Terrorize The Entire World, Not Just The US - which it very much DID.
There is a difference.
Whether you or I like it - and it doesn't make it any more or less moral/immoral.
It is the Strategic/Tactical goal that is the difference.
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13 Apr 12, 05:23
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Originally Posted by Admiral
Yes, because the specific intent would be to Terrorize an entire nation, not eliminate his expertise at weapons development.
The scientists were not targeted because they were known by much of anybody in any sort of scale such as to specifically terrorize an entire nation or large group.
The perpetrators would have been MORE than Happy if the Iranians had kept it all secret from their own people.
911 was carried out specifically & exactly such as that its Strategic & Tactical Goal was nothing at all BUT To Terrorize The Entire World, Not Just The US - which it very much DID.
There is a difference.
Whether you or I like it - and it doesn't make it any more or less moral/immoral.
It is the Strategic/Tactical goal that is the difference.
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Terrorism is not a goal, it's a method. It doesn't need to target the entire population to be called terrorism. Al Qaeda's goal is to get the West out of Middle-East, not for West to live in constant fear.
Of course, the thing is that there is no clear definition of terrorism...clearly however, these assasinations are done for political purposes BY a known terrorist organisation.
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