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24 Jan 12, 19:07
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I'm in agreement about the basic configuration. From the condition, rust, deteriorated gasket between the gun tube & turret embrasure, and hatches/ports ajar it may be a monument or exterior display. Ships supstructure & other expected items are entirely missing from the background.
Am awaiting info from the source of the photo
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23 Mar 12, 08:05
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The naval gun in the turret was of course the Mk30, Mod1 5"/38. Not a great mystery, but the person originally posting the photo was curious about the box on top of the barrel. That was settles satifactoriy.
Meanwhile I dont remember this one being pined down. Search about a bit myself but it eludes me, I also have a uncomfortable feeling I knew the answer many years ago. Any fresh inspiration?
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31 Mar 12, 22:15
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Originally Posted by Carl Schwamberg
The naval gun in the turret was of course the Mk30, Mod1 5"/38. Not a great mystery, but the person originally posting the photo was curious about the box on top of the barrel. That was settles satifactoriy.
Meanwhile I dont remember this one being pined down. Search about a bit myself but it eludes me, I also have a uncomfortable feeling I knew the answer many years ago. Any fresh inspiration?
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Is that a picture of a French 75 or a German 77mm field gun? |
01 Apr 12, 00:02
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Neither, tho it was directly derived from the French 75. Since I posted the question here Ralph Lovett guided me to the correct 'provenance of that relic.
The cannon and recoil assembly are from the US M1897A2. That was a interwar moderization of the original US M1897, which was a copy of the famous old French 75. The A2 was intended for modern motorized artillery & had solid disc wheels with pneumatic tires, The trail was modified for vehicle vs horse draught. The recoil group was changed about for a higher rate of fire according to Lovett. Other sources do not give a reason. The cannon in my photo was remodified after WWII as a "salute" gun for parades and ceremonies. According to Lovett some had locally made shields cobbled together to mimic the old M1897 gun shields.
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01 Apr 12, 10:54
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Okay, because I thought I saw some of that French 75 look to it.
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01 Apr 12, 12:51
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You were correct, there is "some", but the US Army changed many things. The breech, gun tube, and perhaps the wheels are are the only parts from the French design.
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03 Apr 12, 22:22
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This one came out of storage & back to its pad in the local park. I've other views of the rear if anyone needs it.
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09 Apr 12, 21:39
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Originally Posted by Carl Schwamberg
This one came out of storage & back to its pad in the local park. I've other views of the rear if anyone needs it.
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10.5 cm Feldhaubitze 98/09 |
13 Apr 12, 07:46
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There is a plaque on it identifiying it as a donation from the French nation ect...
This photo we have tentatively identified as a US made M1908, but I've not any clear front views of that cannon for a good match. What say the judges here?
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14 Apr 12, 18:08
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10.5 cm Feldhaubitze 98/09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl Schwamberg
There is a plaque on it identifiying it as a donation from the French nation ect...
This photo we have tentatively identified as a US made M1908, but I've not any clear front views of that cannon for a good match. What say the judges here?
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The howitzer you posted in #697 is definitely a German 10.5 cm Feldhaubitze 98/09. Was originally a rigid mount in 1898, then improved with a recoil mechanism that was finally accepted in 1909. (Hence the 98/09 designation.) Barrel was short to keep the weight down, resulting in a recoil mechanism longer than the barrel.
http://www.landships.freeservers.com...cm_lFH9809.htm |
14 Apr 12, 18:24
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Hey! What happened the photo I attached to post 699 
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14 Apr 12, 22:20
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Hey! What happened the photo I attached to post 699
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Ah. Your previous post makes a whole lot more sense now.
Does appear to be the M1908 4.7 inch howitzer. Here's a frontal photo.
http://warmemorials.us/artillery/m19..._kewaunee.html |
10 May 12, 14:19
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Here's a challenge for you chaps, last remaining example.
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Originally Posted by New Zealand War Memorial Wellington
There laid the world away; poured out the red sweet wine of youth; gave up the years to be of work and joy and the unhoped serene that men call age; and those who would have been their sons they gave their immortality
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10 May 12, 19:52
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Picture is too small to see much detail & wont enlarge like a ordinary thumbnail |
11 May 12, 22:09
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The Gun is still operational :O
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There laid the world away; poured out the red sweet wine of youth; gave up the years to be of work and joy and the unhoped serene that men call age; and those who would have been their sons they gave their immortality
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