[QUOTE=Divus Julius;2115449]There certainly has been, and I am about to add to it with you.
The Apollo program as the only
thing that he did right? Really? Not resolving the Cuban Missile Crisis?
That he helped create!
Not launching the Peace Corps?
Sargent Shriver did that, not JFK
Not making a strong (if somewhat belated) commitment to helping the Civil Rights movement, and sending major legislation concerning the matter to congress (passed after his death)?
STRONG commitment? The only strong commitment here should be yours!
Not successfully getting through congress legislation that increased the minimum wage, expanded Social Security, appropriated significant new funds for urban development, the Interstate Highway system, and conservation programs? Not working to try and establish Medicare and federal aid to education? Not employing keynesian economic policies to help foster the beginning of the greatest post-WWII economic boom in American history?
No, the greatest post WW2 economic boom took place before JFK bought his election. JFK's economic boom was the result of ANTI-Keynesian economic policies by cutting TAXES, thereby increasing revenues to the Federal Government.
Not forcing the steel companies to back down when they tried to challenge the administration's industrial relations program? Not expanding America's commitment to the social and economic development of the Third World, and fostering greatly diplomatic relations in Latin America, Africa, India, and the Pacific?
No, where exactly is it the Job of POTUS to expand social and economic in OTHER countries, I guess your version of the US Constitution differs from mine and the one in the National Archives.
Not working to prevent Israel and China from aquiring nuclear weapons, being the first president to actively pursue the peace process in the Middle East, and in the last year of his life exploring the possibility of achieving rapproachement with Cuba?
Yeah, he was extremely successful in those endeavors, typical of a liberal to be given credit by many for his blunders.
Not inspiring millions of people with eloquent appeals to notions of public service and social justice? Not being the last president who, throughout his administration, a majority of Americans felt that they could trust.
Trust JFK? Who trusted him?
JFK's enormous popularity, both at home and abroad, during his brief presidency gives the lie to the assertion that he was "only loved" because he was assassinated. Though his tenure in office was too short for him to establish himself as one of the greatest POTUSs, he easily ranks as one of the top three of the Cold War period, along with Truman and Eisenhower.
In your fantasy world perhaps, but his term as President was not successful, Kennedy was beloved because JACKIE was beloved and the fact that JFK was cheating on her every chance he could would have immensely reduced his so called popularity.
I don't suppose the point that if America had through the 1920s and '30s been actively engaged in working to provide real force to an organization devoted to fostering successful diplomatic engagement between nations, WWII might have been averted is of any consideration?
No, because Hitler only was able to come to power because of the complete lack of integrity in the Treaty of Versailles, Wilson traded away his 14 points for 1, the League of Nations, which was ENTIRELY against the will of the American people, who only wanted to be left alone, again.
Or even that when another country announces its intention to indiscriminately target your shipping for sinking and violate its past agreements with you, the use of armed force might be advisable?
Germany had more legality in their blockade of the British Isles than Britain did during the 1800's which caused the War of 1812. The FACTS are that Wilson was an anglophile and was shipping weapons in violation of his declaration of neutrality on CIVILIAN LINERS, making them legitimate targets of a blockade.
Especially for that matter when your intervention could end a devastating war that promises to have further ruinous consequences for a continent in which many of you key economic interests are tied up.
You obviously know NOTHING of history, America's economic interests with Europe during the War was to stay neutral and make tons of money from trading with BOTH sides. We made, literally, TONS of money off the latest European conflagration by being neutral, until Wilson fooled the nation into joining the British.
Wilson also gets kudos from me for his New Freedom program, which was definitely the most ambitious and successful domestic policy agenda of any president after those of Franklin Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson.
The NEW FREEDOMS, do you mean the new freedom of blacks that Wilson removed from the Federal Workforce when he introduced segregation(except in jobs that he thought were menial and appropriate for blacks like serving at the White House or as mess stewards in the US Navy?) That kind of new freedoms? The kind where he promoted racism not only in the Federal Government, but in the populace at large by saying the saddest day of his life when he saw Jeff Davis in chains or when he promoted one of the most racist movies of all time, Birth of a Nation, by saying that it was so powerful because the movie was just so true! The movie was full of even more errors than your post here that I have corrected.
Not really. You left out the part in which the policies of the New Deal managed to create more than six million private sector jobs in its first four years alone, and provide sufficient direct employment by the government in various relief and development programs that for most of FDR's first eight years, only about 5% of the workforce lacked work of some kind; spurred a 50% increase in nation income over the course of both his first and second terms; in a four year period doubled the nation's industrial output, quadrupled net agricultural income, turned net corporate profits from a record loss to a record high, and massively increased the output of energy utilities and automobile manufacturing; refinanced more than 20% of the privately owned homes in the country and helped spur a massive expansion in homeowning; large-scale national development projects that built schools, hospitals, court-houses, etc by the thousands, along with a volume of roads/highways, bridges, dams, urban projects, etc that constitutes the greatest exercise in national infrastructure development in American history; the modernization of the Tennessee Valley region; bringing electricity to the rural areas of the country; the development of the modern financial system; action to address severe environmental crises affecting the country and a massive conservation program; the empowerment of the labor movement; and not least of all the establishment of a modern social welfare system complete with Social Security, unemployment benefits, a forty hour work week, the abolishment of child labor, etc - all the mechanisms that would enable the US, in the post-WWII period, to support the development (spurred on by massive investment by the federal government in social services) of the greatest mass middle class society in history.
LOL, what a load of absolute horse manure! FDR's policies did NOTHING but spend money, the ONLY thing that worked to get the USA out of the Great Depression was WW2! The removal of some 17 million able bodied workers from the workforce and into the military allowed blacks, women, and the unemployed to take those jobs in the Workplace. The WAR also caused most major consumer goods to be rationed or stopped completely, so you had new workers making increased wages(due to war related factory wages) and little ability to purchase goods, so the people saved their money and bought War Bonds. When the WW2 ended and production of consumer goods resumed, we had lots of money in peoples hands and the desire to make a better life for themselves and THAT is what spurred the US economic boom after the war. FDR did NOTHING to achieve that unless you are one of the kooks that believe that FDR ignored the warnings of war with Japan and deliberately allowed Pearl Harbor to occur.
Let us see, YOUR false opinion of how much good the policies of FDR were to end the Great Depression or those of his SECTREAS,:
"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong … somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises. … I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. … And an enormous debt to boot"
Your opinion or that of the Henry Morgenthau, Jr. on how successful FDR's policies to end the Depression were? I think most people will accept the opinion of the man who was there at the time.
Your further statements about Johnson, Carter, Clinton and Obama are just so far from fact, that I am not even going to bother correcting your numerous and erroneous statements.