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07 Feb 12, 23:25
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On what site was that tank labeled as having a 90 mm gun? The info on the militaryfactory.com variant list is suspect, by the way.
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08 Feb 12, 08:29
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That's not a 90mm. That is the 76mm with a muzzle brake. The US Army did not field a 90mm gun equipped Sherman. There was tests of it but never type classfied nor fielded.
The tank shown is either a M4A3E8 or the M4A3 (76)W HVSS (which is the type classification of the M4A3E8)
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> The info on the militaryfactory.com variant list is suspect, by the way.
I'll have to check my Hunnicut book to double check the proper type classification of the M4A3E8. I also think it has a picture of the test turret with the 90mm gun.
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08 Feb 12, 09:11
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Nope,... it an M4a3e8. The 90mm Sherman had a different turret, the barrel was longer and the muzzle brake a bit different.
Go to this link and look at the pic in the top right
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Sherman
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09 Feb 12, 00:48
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Originally Posted by Blackcloud6
I'll have to check my Hunnicut book to double check the proper type classification of the M4A3E8. I also think it has a picture of the test turret with the 90mm gun.
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-E8 was a designator for the HVSS prototype tanks. It doesn't have anything to do with the armament. 
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Nope,... it an M4a3e8. The 90mm Sherman had a different turret, the barrel was longer and the muzzle brake a bit different.
Go to this link and look at the pic in the top right
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Sherman |
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09 Feb 12, 17:26
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>-E8 was a designator for the HVSS prototype tanks. It doesn't have anything to do with the armament.
I know that.
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10 Feb 12, 20:07
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It just goes to show you I should have known only believe half of what you see and none of what you hear  Thats why the ? I didn't think so but the header says it has a 90mm |
18 Feb 12, 21:06
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22 Feb 12, 15:18
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Looks like the ammunition carrier variant of the Soviet T18
....Wrong!...it's a T23. That'll teach me to guess
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27 Feb 12, 20:52
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Quote:
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Looks like the ammunition carrier variant of the Soviet T18
....Wrong!...it's a T23. That'll teach me to guess
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Yep.
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17 Mar 12, 14:49
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yes it's a Sherman :saltue:
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19 Mar 12, 22:03
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This is the M4A3 with a 76mm main gun.
The picture is from the 1st Cav Museum, that recently created a Korean War area, that this tank is part of the display.
The US Army of 1950s understood the importance of keeping tanks with infantry, so the Sherman was selected; the M26/M46 was reserved for the European battles that never occurred.
Most of the M4s were taken out of the tank battalions and used to fill out the Regimental Tank Companies of each Infantry Regiment in Korea.
I know the US Army kept the Shermans in the inventory (National Guard units) until the early 1960s.
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16 Apr 12, 04:05
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Looks like a side hatch from the turret from a M4, although the examples I find all show markings on them....
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Looks to me to ba a T-23 turret for a M4 series Sherman.
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