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Cool The Spy Wars Forum is open!

This forum is for the discussion of espionage, intelligence, analysis and deception.

Or is it?

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What's a deception? I wasn't even here...

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"In order to perform illusions greater than a sleight of hand, the magician often uses a cloak. The creation of illusions is not magical, or mystical, but is a hint of suggestion, an understanding of human nature, relatively simple technical manipulations, and the fulfillment of carefully planted expectations. Despite this fundamental awareness, one is awed by the magician's illusions of objects disappearing and appearing. Similarly, on the battlefield, the application of deception depends on the same nonmystical elements but is potentially fatal for the one awed and surprised."

So wrote the author of "Soviet Operational Deception: The Red Cloak".

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Vow of Silence?

A magician never tells his secret.
Except maybe Penn&Teller.
Then only the obsolete, old, stuff.
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Did I say we?

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Let the fun begin - Who? What? Where? When? How?

OK, let's get down to business then - Who had the best spies throughout the cold war? Why? Who scored the biggest secrets? How?
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OK, let's get down to business then - Who had the best spies throughout the cold war? Why? Who scored the biggest secrets? How?
You might want to start a new thread for that?

Just a suggestion.

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Spy vs Spy

There were spies all over Western Europe in the late '60s to mid '70s.Mad Magazines Spy vs Spy was about what it was like.In 1969-70 I was in Berlin, there were Army Security Agency and Green Beret units there.

A little like the car chase in the movie "One, Two, Three", except we had Ford Turinos vs Nash Ramblers. They got 12 "spys" in the West zone & we got 6. There were specific routes thay had to follow. We, of course, would go off route for a while, drawing an armed escort that could never catch those Fords.

On the ground live intel is the best way to get the picture of what's going on.
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Spy Wars? I would guess that they go on durning conflicts & when there aren't any conflicks(when ever that might be). In my opinion it goes the torture or not to torture? Now, those Guardsmen in Iraq were just plain stupid, taking "trophy" pictures. They're activites weren't to gain information.

Politicans...always seem to make BROAD statements that encompass the 'useful' in formation gathering tehnics with 'stupidity'.

Any successful ,covert operation, will have godd intel. How do you get good intel? Get men on the ground, snatch some of the enemy and start torturing them. I think the 3 up and 1 down works the best. If done at night, when noTV reporter can see ya. Start throwing them out at 1500 feet. After that 2nd guy goes, the 3rd willl tell all. !.) because he doesn't want to die, 2.) because he knows there is nobody left to tattle on him.

But getting well trained spies? The Commies, the Germans & sometimes the English have what it takes. As for the US, count the stars, baby.
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