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04 Feb 11, 12:10
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Napoleonic Code vs English civil law
Split off from discussions on Egypt - Have fun.
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04 Feb 11, 14:10
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Originally Posted by GCoyote
Split off from discussions on Egypt - Have fun.
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Thanks, but what we are supposed to do with someone asserting that civil code is inferior to english law when he dont even know what Code Civil and Penal are, even less understand them ?
No way to have this coming back to its original thread ? (joking  ).
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04 Feb 11, 18:59
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Think of it as junk mail
I just drop it at the right address.
Feel free to shred it as needed.

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08 Feb 11, 05:49
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Originally Posted by Konzev
Great Britain
The earliest republic was under Oliver Cromwell from 1633 - 1658.
As a democracy it had a short live, even long before Oliver Cromwell crowned himself as the Lord Protector , he turned quickly into a paranoid and zealous dictator. It was one of England bloodiest period.
And caused an endless conflict with the Irish, after Cromwell annexed Ireland into the Republican Commonwealth. Several Irish Villages who put up stiff resistance, where raised to the ground, with all women and children killed.
After his death the restauration back to absolutism took effect.
Oliver Cromwell was dug out of his Grave and hung for the public to see.
Where he remaind displayed several years.
Very civilised indeed.
It took a crazy King, King George to impose a new Parliament to rule Britania.
The british subjects of today, could credit Queen Victoria for converting
the Dominion into a Constitutional Monarchy.
The Queen was well aware of the challenging industrial times ahead.
But this process was slow, bloody and violent.
Not to mention the many colonial wars being fought, foreign cultures destroyed and subdued, the Irish treated as 3rd class human beings, if they survived their many struggles, there was a social rage sometimes raising to civil war like uprisings. Many Miner uprising where put down on the point of the bajonnet, later via Machine-Guns. The scottish struggle also did not end with the battle of Culloden.
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Interesting perspective.
Oliver Cromwell was a reaction to Charles I who himself was the blot on the English development of parliamentary democracy. This began with the Magna Carta that stated that all men had certain rights and freedoms. This was enshrined in our nation very strongly ( not so free by the standards of today but for its time the most progressive around by an absoloute mile) where Englishman believed they were free men and having the vote had nothing to do with it. Look around around the world today and look at some of the countries that have the vote but little else.
As I said Charles I was the blip not Oliver Cromwell. The reaction to Charles I trying to instigate divine right in this country was civil war and his beheading. It was not George III (he wasnt mad ,he had porphyria) who re-instigated it, it was Charles II. You then make out as if the 18th and 19th century was like some kind of violent bedlam. Compared to whom I would say and also by what standards of that period. On the contrary apart from some notable exceptions, inner security was very good, the massive social, industrial and economic advances could not have taken place as rapidly without them. Enlightenment thinkers such as Voltaire said the British were at the vanguard of that movement. As you mentioned it , an Irishman was feted as one of the greatest Generals of his day and later became Prime Minister . Not long after that the Prime Minister was a Jew of absolutley no noble bearing whatsoever. The American constitution sprung from this culture. The great democraies of today, all do.
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