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30 Jul 10, 21:30
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Hannibal and Antiochus III at Magnesia
Most of us would agree that Hannibal was a great military commander and he knew how to use cavalry to defeat the Romans.
He was present with Antiochus at the Battle of Magnesia, but was he any help to Antiochus? The Seleucid army had enough cavalry to run circles around the Romans, but the battle ended in a complete disaster for Antiochus.
Prior to the battle, Antiochus asked Hannibal whether his impressive army would be enough for the Romans, to which Hannibal replied, "quite enough for the Romans, however greedy they are."
So what was going on there? Why wasn't Antiochus able to use Hannibal to get his army up to speed?
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30 Jul 10, 22:56
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Hannibal was Antiochus guest and was never in a leadership role in any capacity.
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30 Jul 10, 23:02
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^So the Seleucid had a great army, but the Seleucid commanders caused the epic fail of the battle?
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30 Jul 10, 23:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Intranetusa
^So the Seleucid had a great army, but the Seleucid commanders caused the epic fail of the battle?
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31 Jul 10, 12:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Intranetusa
^So the Seleucid had a great army, but the Seleucid commanders caused the epic fail of the battle?
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OK, that's obvious, but why? Why didn't Antiochus make good use of Hannibal in his army. Instead he put him in charge of naval operations, not exactly his forte. He already knew what Rome's legions did to the Macedonians at Cynocephalae. You would think that Antiochus would tap into the expertise of one who had repeatedly defeated the Romans on their own turf. |
31 Jul 10, 22:07
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We don't have a time machine...the best we can do is speculate.
A fallout between the two?
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Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys; look on them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you even unto death. -Sun Tzu
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