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Oh man, At Ease, seriously ... the image you give from yourself if one of a total wussy who looks at his feet everytime a tough guy crosses your way! Man up!

Thats the attitude I'd expect from some born-again, who due to some incident in his early life, is totally scared from what he hears in the news; and feels himself being preyed upon at every corner he turns. Grow some balls ffs! This is just plain hurtful to read!
Do you have anything to say about the thread matter being discussed, or are you only capable of personal attacks? And I am not a "born again". I was baptised and raised as a Catholic. I have always been the way I am.


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At Ease,you said that most Harley owners are criminals.Now you are trying to adjust your arguement that criminals that ride motorcycles all ride Harleys.But that's not the arguement.Look,you're among friends here.There's no embarassment in admitting you made a dopey statement.
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This is what I said (in post #5):
"It's an aspirational brand. But only those who aspire to following a life of crime, or who endorses the "gang" lifestyle, would want to own one."
Ah At Ease, there's a HUGE fallacy there. Just because all As are Bs, it does not follow that all Bs are As. Like (in so far as this works), all medical malpracticers are doctors, but not all doctors are guilty of medical malpractice.

I would never ride a motorcycle, but if I was, and wanted style, I'd pick a Harley in a heartbeat. That I might be criminally inclined has nothing to do with it. I'd want a crotch rocket to escape the cops if that were the case.
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If I were your high school teacher and you handed in a paper with that kind of glaring logical fallacy, I would have stopped reading immediately, and placed a big fat 'F' on top of your paper and tell you to write a new paper.

There's a big market for well-off mid-life crisis men who go out and buy Harley's. I think they're douchebags because they're just weekend riders who go around without helmets so the wind and debris is all in their faces causing them to move slowly and **** me off. But they're not criminals. Lawyers (not personal injury lawyers), dentists, business owners, yes, but outlaw motorcycle gang members? BIG Emphatic NO!

Oh yes, a lot of these 'gangs' you may be worried about are just weekend or springtime riders who form clubs because there is safety in numbers when inexperienced and on motorcycles. That safety is not necessarily from OMGs but from motorists in trucks and cars who might miss seeing a lone motor-cyclist but will certainly notice a huge pack of them (and thus avoid hitting any one of them).
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If I were your high school teacher and you handed in a paper with that kind of glaring logical fallacy, I would have stopped reading immediately, and placed a big fat 'F' on top of your paper and tell you to write a new paper.

There's a big market for well-off mid-life crisis men who go out and buy Harley's. I think they're douchebags because they're just weekend riders who go around without helmets so the wind and debris is all in their faces causing them to move slowly and **** me off. But they're not criminals. Lawyers (not personal injury lawyers), dentists, business owners, yes, but outlaw motorcycle gang members? BIG Emphatic NO!

Oh yes, a lot of these 'gangs' you may be worried about are just weekend or springtime riders who form clubs because there is safety in numbers when inexperienced and on motorcycles. That safety is not necessarily from OMGs but from motorists in trucks and cars who might miss seeing a lone motor-cyclist but will certainly notice a huge pack of them (and thus avoid hitting any one of them).
You hit the nail on the head. I think it funny at a dealership you can see 8 year old Harleys, all cromed out with every aftermarket thing you can imagine, with less than 10K on the odometer.

And MCs leave "civilians" alone - unless of course you instigate something, in which case you probably deserve the beating.

In fact in several cases you might see several motorcycles riding together, and it is possible the people don't even know each other, sometimes people that see other bikes on the road start riding in groups for that safety factor.
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And I am not a "born again". I was baptised and raised as a Catholic. I have always been the way I am.
Great! Right what I wanted to hear.
If so, start practicing and stop with:

- The Slander.
- Distorting the truth

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Still no one is prepared to answer the question that I have asked a number of times - that being what is the brand of motor cycle used by criminal motorcycle gangs?
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Great! Right what I wanted to hear.
If so, start practicing and stop with:

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Again, nothing to contribute except more personal attacks.
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Still no one is prepared to answer the question that I have asked a number of times - that being what is the brand of motor cycle used by criminal motorcycle gangs?
Jesus Murphy, at ease. Give it a rest. So what if some criminals "aspire" to own a Harley-Davidson? Your point that therefore: "only those who aspire to following a life of crime, or who endorses the "gang" lifestyle, would want to own one" is erroneous - both as a statement of logic and as a statement of fact. Move on to something else.
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On "Manning up" - by Rudyard Kipling.
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Just came to read the poem, couldn't do so before because of time constraints.
Nice find ... if that's how you feel a man should be, i definitly can agree with that.

BUT ... if the reason you placed that link in your response was to point to yourself as being a man, and having those mentioned traits.... I fear to dissapoint you, since your actions certainly don't adjust to that ideal.

The suggestion of restraining yourself of slandering and lying was, as a matter of fact, no personal attack; simply some genuine advise. But alas, do what pleases you.

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Still no one is prepared to answer the question that I have asked a number of times - that being what is the brand of motor cycle used by criminal motorcycle gangs?
Counter-question:

From all pedophiles around the whooole dark world, which religion do they most often embrace? That makes which religious followers specially propense for child raping?

See the fallacy now? Games like this can be played from all sides, and the results are always the same .... bull
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