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The Brits Who Fought For Hitler



The documentary includes information on various British groups and individuals whom stood for the German cause during WW2. We can see from the documentary how decades later and now living in peace and comfort the British traitor James Clarke explains why he stood for Hitler and went against his own county. Their numbers were low, the British traitors that is, but they were real and were a threat to the allied cause and surely the vast majorty of Brits detested such traitors . Traitors such as John Amery regularly broadcast anti allied propaganda messages from Axis lands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Amery


And what a difficult cause wrt John Amery whose father served with distinction in the British military. It must have been difficult for John Amerys father to deal with the execution of his son post WW2 for treason.

The Brits who fought for Hitler reminds of the low # of British and American men whom have joined ISILs cause, low in # but a threat nonetheless to the anti ISIL coalition.
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They were hardly a "threat to the Allied cause" as they were so ineffectual and insignificant that even the Germans recognized they were a joke. The British Freikorps are really nothing but an interesting footnote whose impact was non existent.
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They were hardly a "threat to the Allied cause" as they were so ineffectual and insignificant that even the Germans recognized they were a joke. The British Freikorps are really nothing but an interesting footnote whose impact was non existent.
And since this is the World War Two forum, discussions on ISIL or other modern conflicts have no place here. If you wish to discuss them, please move your discussion to the proper part of the forum
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I for one will not take part in any discussion of such on this forum. lcm1
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I for one will not take part in any discussion of such on this forum. lcm1
And that is your choice. Your one of thousands of members we all have our opinion. What exactly is your issue if I may ask as neither the OP nor documentary supports the axis cause.. I for one support the allied cause if your issue is a moral one it is a misunderstanding on your part. The history channel is the entity that put out the documentary, I disagree with your approach above I feel you are missing out.
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. What exactly is your issue if I may ask as neither the OP nor documentary supports the axis cause.. I for one support the allied cause if your issue is a moral one it is a misunderstanding on your part. .
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They were hardly a "threat to the Allied cause" as they were so ineffectual and insignificant that even the Germans recognized they were a joke. The British Freikorps are really nothing but an interesting footnote whose impact was non existent.
And since this is the World War Two forum, discussions on ISIL or other modern conflicts have no place here. If you wish to discuss them, please move your discussion to the proper part of the forum
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I forgot to respond to this. And yes I felt when I made the post that the appropriate forum might be the warfare through the ages section...but I ended up posting my OP here in the WW2 section. It makes sense though wrt your points, the Isil comparison probably does not belong here. So I ask if this thread can be moved to the warfare through the ages section.. as the scholars have said history echoes throughout the ages and I have some comparisons I would like to make between treatment of the British free corps by Germany during WW2 compared to treatment of British Isil members by Isil.
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There were nazi sympathisers in many countries, boy did they back the wrong horse..

American nazis in Chicago, 1931-


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What they did must be viewed as treason.
Exactly. No excuse can cover such an act. lcm1
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It was. I think I did mention trials after the war.
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American nazis in Chicago, 1931-


https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicag...t?oid=21376284
Keep in mind that the USA has a large German population, many of whom were first generation immigrants in the 1930s.

The Bund also preached 'no more European wars', which found rich support in a USA which saw its involvement in WW1 as a waste. There is a good reason FDR vowed not to have 'any American boys killed in a European war'.

As to the trolling premise of this thread, it is utter nonsense.
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Here is a bio of Archibald Ramsay, another leading British figure whom supported the German cause.

Archibald Ramsay, the son of Lieutenant-Colonel Henry Ramsay, was born in Scotland on 4th May, 1894. Educated at Eton and Sandhurst Military College, he joined the Coldstream Guards in 1913. During the First World War he served in France (1914-1916) and at the War Office (1917-1918).

Ramsay married the eldest daughter of 14th Viscount Gormanstan, and the widow of Lord Ninian Crichton-Stuart, the son of the 3rd Marquess of Bute. After their marriage the couple lived in Kellie Castle near Arbroath.

A member of the Conservative Party, Ramsay was elected to the House of Commons in 1931. Over the next few years he developed extreme right-wing political views. A strongly religious man, he became convinced that the Russian Revolution was the start of an international Communist plot to take over the world. In 1935 two secret agents from Nazi Germany established the anti-Semetic Nordic League. The organization was initially known as the White Knights of Britain or the Hooded Men. Ramsay soon emerged as the leader of this organization. The Nordic League was primarily an upper-middle-class association as opposed to the British Union of Fascists that mainly attracted people from the working class.


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Interesting documentary because of the interviews. The documentary tries to sensationalize things but fails.

The British Free Corps comes off as a small group of POWs who succumbed to the temptation of food, beer, and women as a reward for treason. They were a very small drop in the threat bucket.
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Interesting documentary because of the interviews. The documentary tries to sensationalize things but fails.

The British Free Corps comes off as a small group of POWs who succumbed to the temptation of food, beer, and women as a reward for treason. They were a very small drop in the threat bucket.
I'd add that not only the notion of "threat" is a miserable attempt at sensationalizing these guys; but also the word "fought" is out of place. The most they did was to be propaganda tools, and ineffective at that.
But then again, that seems par for the course.
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