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The Brits Who Fought For Hitler



The documentary includes information on various British groups and individuals whom stood for the German cause during WW2. We can see from the documentary how decades later and now living in peace and comfort the British traitor James Clarke explains why he stood for Hitler and went against his own county. Their numbers were low, the British traitors that is, but they were real and were a threat to the allied cause and surely the vast majorty of Brits detested such traitors . Traitors such as John Amery regularly broadcast anti allied propaganda messages from Axis lands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Amery


And what a difficult cause wrt John Amery whose father served with distinction in the British military. It must have been difficult for John Amerys father to deal with the execution of his son post WW2 for treason.

The Brits who fought for Hitler reminds of the low # of British and American men whom have joined ISILs cause, low in # but a threat nonetheless to the anti ISIL coalition.
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They were hardly a "threat to the Allied cause" as they were so ineffectual and insignificant that even the Germans recognized they were a joke. The British Freikorps are really nothing but an interesting footnote whose impact was non existent.
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They were hardly a "threat to the Allied cause" as they were so ineffectual and insignificant that even the Germans recognized they were a joke. The British Freikorps are really nothing but an interesting footnote whose impact was non existent.
And since this is the World War Two forum, discussions on ISIL or other modern conflicts have no place here. If you wish to discuss them, please move your discussion to the proper part of the forum
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I for one will not take part in any discussion of such on this forum. lcm1
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I for one will not take part in any discussion of such on this forum. lcm1
And that is your choice. Your one of thousands of members we all have our opinion. What exactly is your issue if I may ask as neither the OP nor documentary supports the axis cause.. I for one support the allied cause if your issue is a moral one it is a misunderstanding on your part. The history channel is the entity that put out the documentary, I disagree with your approach above I feel you are missing out.
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. What exactly is your issue if I may ask as neither the OP nor documentary supports the axis cause.. I for one support the allied cause if your issue is a moral one it is a misunderstanding on your part. .
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They were hardly a "threat to the Allied cause" as they were so ineffectual and insignificant that even the Germans recognized they were a joke. The British Freikorps are really nothing but an interesting footnote whose impact was non existent.
And since this is the World War Two forum, discussions on ISIL or other modern conflicts have no place here. If you wish to discuss them, please move your discussion to the proper part of the forum
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I forgot to respond to this. And yes I felt when I made the post that the appropriate forum might be the warfare through the ages section...but I ended up posting my OP here in the WW2 section. It makes sense though wrt your points, the Isil comparison probably does not belong here. So I ask if this thread can be moved to the warfare through the ages section.. as the scholars have said history echoes throughout the ages and I have some comparisons I would like to make between treatment of the British free corps by Germany during WW2 compared to treatment of British Isil members by Isil.
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Exactly. No excuse can cover such an act. lcm1
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It was. I think I did mention trials after the war.
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Interesting documentary because of the interviews. The documentary tries to sensationalize things but fails.

The British Free Corps comes off as a small group of POWs who succumbed to the temptation of food, beer, and women as a reward for treason. They were a very small drop in the threat bucket.
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Interesting documentary because of the interviews. The documentary tries to sensationalize things but fails.

The British Free Corps comes off as a small group of POWs who succumbed to the temptation of food, beer, and women as a reward for treason. They were a very small drop in the threat bucket.
I'd add that not only the notion of "threat" is a miserable attempt at sensationalizing these guys; but also the word "fought" is out of place. The most they did was to be propaganda tools, and ineffective at that.
But then again, that seems par for the course.
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I'd add that not only the notion of "threat" is a miserable attempt at sensationalizing these guys; but also the word "fought" is out of place. The most they did was to be propaganda tools, and ineffective at that.
But then again, that seems par for the course.
I disagree with your approach. I add fwiw that neither the documentary nor the OP are sensationalizing anything rather they are showing the very British men whom fought for the German cause in WW2...few in numbers yes but certainly they existed.
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..British men whom fought for the German cause in WW2...few in numbers yes but certainly they existed.
Yes, there were also French, Italian, Belgian and Dutch SS units plus about a dozen more units from other Euro nations-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Waffen-SS_units

We don't know their motives for joining the SS, for example no doubt some of them wanted to help defeat Russia, especially as the Russian steamroller got closer and closer to their homelands, their wives and children..

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