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Originally Posted by Barbaross@ View Post
false. Soviets broken the treaties from Ryga, and non agression pact from 1932. They were simplky agresor in the same maner as the Germans, or even worse because Hitler declared war, Stalin did not.
false.
Polish government fled to Romania after Soviet agression, not before.
Sorry but not false. The Soviet Union invaded after the Polish government had evacuated. The Germans declared on 15 September that they no longer recognized the existence of a state known as "Poland."

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false. They stopped, and waiting for Soviets troops (like in Brest), or even back of if they crossed the new border line agreed in Ribbentropp-Molotov pact - in Lublin area.
It is why Polish troops from East regions could move West (near Kock 4-6 October, was a last battle of the 1939 campaign).
Yes, but war was a fact. Se here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland
Again not false, the Poles did not declare war on the USSR, and they ordered troops to continue resisting Germany while explicitly not resisting the Soviets.

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False. People Guard was a tiny Soviet ruled, communist partisant organisation (5000-10000) members compared to AK (Home Army) estimated over 500.000 participants. And did not created any government.
Communistic govt. in Lublin was created by Stalin himself in Moscov and set up in "liberated" part of Poland. It composed from Soviet agents and prewar criminals.
I find it amusing how you think if you begin a sentence with "false", that will mean the information you are trying to refute is not true. It's like you fervently wish for t hat to be the case.

As usual, your refutation fails. How the hell could the Soviets "control" a partisan movement that began in 1942? Take a look at the front lines at that time. And why do you assume that if a movement is Communist, it can't be Polish? I was not aware that the Polish people are some kind of hivemind collective that cannot embrace different ideologies on an individual basis.

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What with this?
Poland sign this in 1934. With Soviets we had the same paper in 1932.
Is that mean Poland was an allied with Stalin?
Rather ironically, bourgeois historians often use the non-aggression pact between the USSR and Germany as evidence that they were "allies", but I digress.

The point is there was no "Poland" by 15 September, and the government HAD fled before the Soviet troops crossed the border. If any government officials had not escaped by then, what is certain is that the Soviets had been informed that they had left, and believed thus.

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Well, maybe it is because we knew it wery well for centruries? hm?
Imperialism is imperialism, period.

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Apparently it's not enough to keep Poles in Poland.
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