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Old 18 Feb 12, 20:05
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Originally Posted by Bravo Zero View Post
And how many countries did it take to make the 8th may surrender possible?

It took millions of soldiers from all the world powers and years of fighting to bring down the Wehrmacht and the SS.
That is a misreading of the true situation.
The reason the Germans had so many enemies is because they attacked them and thus they 'made' millions of enemies. Where you and the other fanbois go wrong is to assume this Allied army was assembled because it was 'known' they would need a massive supperiority to overcome the uber-soldiers. The Soviets were doing quite well on their own and nothing suggests they could not have finished the job themselves if they had too. Like any other sensible nation they did not spurn the help offered by others.


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Originally Posted by Bravo Zero View Post
That says to me that they were one of the best, but people are afraid to admit it because they were loyal to both a nationalist and a racialist regime. Had they been fighting in the name of democracy they would of been praised to no end for being the most respectable fighters of the 20th century!
Well they certainly were stupid.
By 1943 their defeat was inevitable. Any sensible person would have sought terms. By mid 1944 the end no longer deniable even to the most rabid SS pervert. In truth they were beaten in 1944 but they refused to admit it. This made sure millions of Germans died for no good reason. The last 8 months of the war were completely pointless and gained Germany no advantage whatsoever. It is incomprehensible to me why the fanbois considers the senseless deaths of so many for no good purpose is something we should all sit back and applaud.

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They had suffered an honourable defeat, a defeat that was inevitable, but had done as much fighting as they could to prevent it.
As I said even the true believers realised defeat was inevitable.
And I hate to prick your balloon but more than a hundred of German Divisions surrendered fairly intact. Outside of the cocoon of the madman and his loyal henchmen in Berlin the rest of the Army could not surrender fast enough. Some of the fastest 'advances' in history were made by Eastern Front German 'Elite' Units running as fast as they could westward.
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