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T. A. Gardner 07 Sep 14 00:11

The most insane and weird alternate WW 2 history scenario
 
Inspired by the you-know-who's this thread seeks the most bizarre and insane scenarios for WW 2. The only restriction is you have to demonstrate a historical point of departure and anything after that has to be arguably possible. So, no UFO's or supersonic coal powered fighters flying from secret mountain bases in Antarctica or the like...

I'll start off.

The Allies concerned about V-1 attacks on England push into production the rocket powered version of the Northrop P-79 ram fighter.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_t3ekSNwJb8...6-2001xp79.jpg

This uses the XCALR-2000A-1 "rotojet" rocket motor running on aniline and red fuming nitric acid. It is made of magnesium to avoid the corrosive and deadly effects of mixing nitric acid and aluminum...

With 6 minutes flying time it is launched to intercept V-1's and then flip them over, having no armament. After a number of explosions and crashes the rocket version is replaced with the turbojet (Westinghouse I 19C) version that has 4 x .50 machineguns. The pilots and crew derisively name it the "Bat Guano."

Top that insanity. I know I can. :cool:

Bwaha 07 Sep 14 00:24

I've got that beat. Almost happened as well.

The Brits and the French attack Russia over the Finnish war...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-...the_Winter_War

Now that's some batshit crazy... :nuts:

T. A. Gardner 07 Sep 14 00:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bwaha (Post 2888077)
I've got that beat. Almost happened as well.

The Brits and the French attack Russia over the Finnish war...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-...the_Winter_War

Now that's some batshit crazy... :nuts:

You need more details than that to make it batshit crazy.

Bwaha 07 Sep 14 00:31

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Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner (Post 2888078)
You need more details than that to make it batshit crazy.

I don't know, kicking stalin into the axis camp would've really sucked. And he wasn't that far off from being a full ally of the ratzis.

Commies and natzis are just two sides of the same coin.

T. A. Gardner 07 Sep 14 02:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bwaha (Post 2888079)
I don't know, kicking stalin into the axis camp would've really sucked. And he wasn't that far off from being a full ally of the ratzis.

Commies and natzis are just two sides of the same coin.

Maybe but it really doesn't qualify as insane batshit crazy sort of stuff. Stupid maybe. Harmful, yes. But, given no hindsight it isn't insanely stupid for that to happen.

Scott Fraser 07 Sep 14 04:18

I still like the one where the Japanese invade Iran so they can supply Germany with oil. The problem is finding a point of departure.

Regards
Scott Fraser

T. A. Gardner 07 Sep 14 04:46

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Originally Posted by Scott Fraser (Post 2888155)
I still like the one where the Japanese invade Iran so they can supply Germany. The problem is finding a point of departure.

Regards
Scott Fraser

Go for it! I have one where Tesla lives a few years more and shoots down V-1's using lightning bolts!

Chukka 07 Sep 14 07:08

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/upload...nt-painted.jpg

To be honest' I giggled when I first saw this redecorated monument to the Red Army in Bulgaria, then felt a bit ashamed considering the role of the Red army in liberating Europe from Naziism, and now I am thinking of it as an attack on the Politicians that ran the Soviet Union and totalitarianism in general rather than having a go at the Red Army soldiers.

T. A. Gardner 07 Sep 14 07:27

Nice try, but no historical point of departure and no way to make it plausible.

It is excellent satire though...

Chukka 07 Sep 14 08:07

Fair enough, I saw it today and couldn't think of where the hell to post it,but I just had to post it.

Wooden Wonder 07 Sep 14 08:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bwaha (Post 2888077)
I've got that beat. Almost happened as well.

The Brits and the French attack Russia over the Finnish war...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-...the_Winter_War

Now that's some batshit crazy... :nuts:


Instead the Brits declared war on Finland, but no shots were fired. As someone once [in jest] retorted, "It was a rubbish war!" :toast:

Nick the Noodle 07 Sep 14 09:09

Johann Georg Elser succeeds in killing Hitler 1939. Rest of war continues as normal until Pearl Harbour. Germany decides to side with USA against Japan. They make this palatable to the US president by removing their armed forces from France and the low countries. The Germans state the war in the West was a mistake on Hitlers part, one the Wehrmacht did not want to do, and are glad for a means of withdrawing with honour. The US gets a political victory without any military losses in the west, and a division or so of fanatical veteran troops to fight in the East. Germany can now fight against the Soviets without being bombed, or having to watch their backs.

T. A. Gardner 07 Sep 14 17:28

How about this one...

The US and Britain start seeking ways to jam the V-1's guidance system. Of course, the V-1's guidance is by use of a magnetic compass and gyro driving servos.
So, Dr. Don Hare (real guy who did this) at the Airborne Instruments Lab at MIT figures out that the Allies should build a huge electromagnetic coil around London. Sort of a giant reverse degaussing coil.
He suggests using 60 miles of abandoned railway with new sections connecting where necessary. This is hooked up to a 50 MW power plant and over 1000 amps of DC current is put through the tracks. So, while this works some of the time, but not always, Nikola Tesla who doesn't die in 1943, sends a letter to the lab saying they should build a series of 500 foot towers 1000 feet apart along the line that feed extremely high voltage (say, 500,000 VDC or VAC) to a tuned coil antenna such that when a V-1 flies through the array it gets zapped with artificial lightning.
So construction begins on 1500 towers on the side of the array the V-1 come through most...
This becomes known as the "Doddle Bug Zapper."

Hida Akechi 08 Sep 14 00:27

Sealion.

What, too soon?

T. A. Gardner 08 Sep 14 00:59

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Originally Posted by Hida Akechi (Post 2888620)
Sealion.

What, too soon?

Kamikaze Sealion where the Japanese use their fleet to support the German invasion...


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